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Nope, sorry, I am still not having it. The Russians are the only ones jeopardising peace in the region. NATO is a defensive pact. If Russia didn't invade their neighbours, they would have nothing to fear from NATO. You are still apologising for Russian aggression and blaming its cause on the west, even if you're trying to say it in an intellectual way or "both sides" it.
Jesus, I would love to see the world as simply as you do. You are literally going to avoid engaging with or thinking about every single point and reduce it to "Russia bad, NATO good?" You really see zero nuance in the history of NATO, its conception, its expansion, and the power it has? Does it not give you even a little pause? If not NATO, what about the world leaders who wield it?
I'm not trying to sound "intellectual," and if I do it is because I am trying to be very specific and clear in what I say. I understand how closely this aligns with tankie talking points. That said, there is some level of intelligence or curiosity necessary for these conversations. If you reduce conflict around the world to some Marvel-esque "bad guy invades because he's evil" scenario and never stop to ask why the bad guy exists, you are never going to be able to understand human conflict or contribute to the avoidance of it.
Sure, attack my intelligence and curiosity rather than the argument that only an aggressive nation has anything to fear from a defensive alliance.