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[–] Nahvi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are definitely something, but they were not the main qualities that Newsom repeatedly stated that he was searching for.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be explicit. What are you trying to say.

[–] Nahvi@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be very obvious what I am saying.

In choosing Butler on Sunday, Newsom fulfilled his pledge to appoint a Black woman if Feinstein’s seat became open.

I am saying that it is morally wrong to choose a someone primarily based on their skin color and genitals.

I am further saying that if you are going to do it anyways, then you denigrate the person you are choosing by announcing it publicly.

Additionally, I will point out that, Asian, Hispanic, White, and mixed race peoples all significantly out number black people in California. It is bad enough to choose a Senator based on race and sex, but it is even worse to eliminate 97% of his state's population before even considering their qualifications for the job.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it not conceivable that there are a number of well qualified black women?

If a race and gender is underrepresented in the Senate, then why wouldn't it be a good thing to push a well qualified candidate that also represents underrepresented demographics?

The issue I take with this meritocracy take is it assumes that the best candidate wouldn't be a black woman.

[–] Nahvi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue I take with this meritocracy take is it assumes that the best candidate wouldn’t be a black woman.

That is odd. I see this exactly the opposite. To me it looks like Newsom assumed that the best candidate wouldn't be a black woman so he had to eliminate 97% of the field before choosing.

The best candidate very well could have been Butler, but unfortunately we do not know that because Newsom discounted all of her skills and experience and chose race and sex as the most important qualifiers for the position.

Even if he planned to choose based off of race and sex, all he had to do to not undermine his future pick was keep his mouth closed about it.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are just playing a racist game. The same one that got played with KBJ and Barrack Obama.

Reverse racism is a troupe started by an avowed white nationalists/Nazis. The very same people that started the anti-crt BS that ended up lumping all discussion of civil rights into a "actually, this is racist because it makes white people feel bad".

It is not racist to prioritize well qualified underrepresented minorities over overrepresented majorities. It's not racist to do that explicitly. The undertone of your comment is she must not be well qualified, yet all you want to do is talk about her race and not the qualifications I listed.

She is well qualified. So the only reason you are objecting is because she's black. That is racist.

If you are really concerned about racism, perhaps focus on Tommy tuberville's defense of white nationalists and fight to make the military whiter. Not the appointment of a well qualified black senator.

You're game is transparent fascist.

[–] Nahvi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are putting words in my mouth and then knocking your own words down like it means something.

Why not try actually arguing against what I said, instead setting up strawmen and then engaging in name-calling?

I could not care less what skin color she has.

I care that for political gain Newsom singled out her sex and skin color like they were the most defining factors about her.

I care because some people buy into it so thoroughly that they think someone pointing it out makes them a fascist.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could not care less what skin color she has.

Yet that's the only issue you've commented on.

You think it's racist to prioritize minority appointments, only racists think that.

It's only a problem if she's unqualified. Yet you want to only focus on white victimhood narratives put up by avowed white nationalists.

You're a racist.

[–] Nahvi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

More strawmen, more name-calling.

Just find a mirror, then the conversation will be the same as the one in your head.