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Tories heading for landslide election defeat, says Britain’s top pollster
(www.independent.co.uk)
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So, the first government I really remember was Blair's Labour. At the time, I was against a lot of what they did from a left and liberal POV. I won't go through the list because we all know it and I'm still against all of it!
Having now lived through a Tory government, I can categorically say that Labour are infinitely superior to the Conservatives in every respect. Labour would never have given us Brexit, as just one example. Under Labour we're going to get green investment, planning reform, investment in schools. It's going to get better and it's worth fighting for.
Agreed with this. Labour are far from perfect, but I'd still rather have them than the Tories. My ideal outcome from the next general election would be Labour falling short of a majority, though: this would force them to cooperate with another party, and ideally that other party would be the Lib Dems and/or Greens, who would push for electoral reform as a condition of cooperation. I don't think we're going to see any meaningful change in the country until we ditch FPTP, which puts too much power in the hands of a few swing voters in specific areas of the country, who are seen as necessary to win over while everyone else just gets thrown under a bus. And we're never going to get PR with a Labour majority government.
I think you're right that a Labour majority wouldn't go for PR, but I also think PR is unlikely to solve many problems. It was FPTP that gave us the NHS after all!
But basically we need to get the Tories out and right now, the simplest way to do that is to get Labour in!
What we really need to do is get every single political party out. There isn’t a single one of them that is willing to do enough to stop climate change or to address inequality.
Okay, I'm not really sure what your theory of change is, here.
The only thing that will stop climate change is large scale international agreement. The chances of that happening are small, but they're better with Labour.
We need to change our perspectives. Electoral politics isn’t the most important thing for changing our society, it should be quite low on the list.
What we really need to do to change the world for the better is to substantially change the structure of society. We need to build an alternative structure to what exists - a series of workers co-ops, housing co-ops, social centres, industrial unions, and so on, and once we have such a structure in place we can withhold our labour and stop participating in the exploitative, destructive system that exists now. This would effectively lead to the collapse of the current system in a way that would minimise harm.
That's just a list of nice things.