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All these children are invisible to the driver...
Fuck all those cars!!! Put them away to hell, not to earth. They are too big for all - except for small egos. But for small egos is therapy much better.
Yes, no one who owns a truck uses it to move furniture, trash, dirt, mulch, or an old transmission they pulled at the auto lot. None of them go fishing or hunting, obviously, so fishing rods, camping gear and coolers won't be necessary in the back. Also, no one who owns a truck has ever done home repair and would never carry wood or power tools in the back of, do you get how stupid your strawman is yet?
https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history
I guess self-reporting surveys must be lies then.
In other words, for the most part, these gas guzzling monstrosities are rarely used for hauling shit. Maybe they should just rent a truck when they need one?
That doesn't invalidate trucks used for commercial or professional use, or the fact I'll still stand on.... hauling and outdoor use. It being rare doesn't make it non-existent.
I'm sure some idiot is hauling refrigerators with a Civic, it doesn't make them progressive.
It's not non-existent, but it's non-existent enough to justify most people not owning trucks and just renting them when needed.
I mean, if trucks were still like the 4-cylinder Ranger I had from the 80's, it would make more sense. But they aren't and it doesn't.
Then you have to pay the rental fee. What if I own a truck... and a Civic?
Is it the ego at this point or are you really riding this train?
At this point, I think that's projection.
Oh no! A rental fee! That must have made it so you couldn't afford to eat. What even is this argument?
So you own more vehicles than you as an individual need? I don't know why you think that's supposed to go over well in a Fuck_Cars forum.
Three of the guys at my shop literally go fishing about twice a month. They own trucks. It's possible. One drives a focus to work every day.
I noticed you danced around the owning two vehicles statement, very nice. I'm moving on with it since it's troubling you so much.
*shrugs
Projection.
Personal anecdotes without evidence are like the least effective way to prove a point, by the way.
Nice edit, low blow, bro, low blow. I didn't screenshot yours before you made it. I don't believe in being cheap.
The edit was made several minutes before you responded. Check it for yourself.
Finishing your thought to add more before someone else has responded isn't cheap. But it's clear you want to be a victim here.
Why don't you go back to being a crypto bro, it seems you're suited to it.
Fair.
You're still wrong about the truck thing, tho. Thank God you guys can't downvote me, I bet the urge must be painful.
I mean, this is a Lemmy.ml community, which has downvotes enabled. Are you desperate to act like a fool?
Just so long as they aren't my problem, it doesn't matter that much to me what you do.
and they aren't.
Are downvotes actually a problem for anyone except those with fragile egos?
In that case they need a commercial license and/or it's business property for taxes and the company should own it (if not a sole proprietorship). And you can't use company property for personal use most places.
Good Lord. Imagine living on 8 acres in the woods and you need a professional license to own a truck just to live, lmao.
No wonder none of you get it.
Then how do you stop the spread of these monstrosities to suburbs where the driver never uses it for that function? All I'm seeing from you is calling us silly for now wanting something the size of a fleet vehicle used on streets not designed for it and killing pedestrians they cant see. Atleast requiring some sort of inbetween grade of license besides passenger cars and everything else could curtail people who are not skilled enough to drive those vehicles or not motivated enough for a status symbol purchase. Rather than say we don't understand that people have some legit need and poo-poo us, couldn't you try and be helpful with ideas?
There's no issue with driving whatever on private property. But driving a professional vehicle on public roads should require a professional license.
Almost no one uses trucks daily for those activities. It's an occasional thing. In which case renting is cheaper. Hunting, too since the vast, vast majority of hunters aren't even hunting weekly.
Fishing? Collapsible poles or strap them to the top. It's not like the rest of the world has trucks and they do these things.
Also, coolers and camping gear? My brother in gaia get a hatchback.
We came up with trailers long ago for occassional hauling needs. Not that any of your needs even warrant one.
I fish with a Camry just fine.
We don’t have this kind of trucks in the Europe AT ALL and people still go fishing, do home repairs, carry heavy or large loads. This is all American lifestyle.
Excuse me in which car-free paradise do you live? While Europe might not reach American-level exuberance in car volume, we have seen a very anger-inducing increase in the number of SUVs. Every second car I saw in Germany this summer was way wider and longer than it needed to be. I want these cars regulated the fuck out of Europe rather sooner than later, but right now every arsehole happily buys one on the promise that their own kids are safe inside the moron-family-sized tank while their parent mows down other people's children.
I can easily do all of that and more with my non-lifted mid-sized long-bed pickup. It's just a fact my dude; they are selling a self-image, not actual utility. Or what about a van with a roof-rack. In my professional experience that's a lot more utilitarian if you're a tradesman.
Again, it's all about an image that's been meticulously and brilliantly marketed and sold to very specific demographics.
Don't impede the circle jerk, unless you use it everyday for work you should rent a truck every other weekend
I work in industrial construction on massive unionized projects with tradespeople coming from all over the US and Canada and I can tell you for an objective fact that the number of guys --it's almost always guys, which should tell you something-- who drive giant lifted obnoxious trucks as their daily driver vs the number who actually really and truly need them on a regular basis is like 100 to 1.
But even if it were only 10 to 1, that means we have 10 times as many of these giant gas guzzling dangerous trucks out on the road.
The industry has done such a good job at selling these trucks as part of a self-image, that a lot of guys are incapable of admitting that the only reason they drive one is because they think it looks cool.
Or just... have a truck? Look, man. Is your problem intensified by the trucks in question being 8-cylinder gas guzzlers?
Have you ever heard of Toyota?
Carbrained: When you're so stuck up your own ass you even lash out at people who were obviously making a joke that meant they agreed with you.
That's it. I've had enough of this. I'm off to buy a truck!
They're wonderful. I personally enjoy looking down on everyone in mine. And if I was to ever hit a line of kids in the road, I know I'm safe.