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“Gee whizz we awe vewy sowwy fow doing a pwivacy invasion” 👉👈🥺
I’m beyond sick of corporations knowing they can do whatever they want as long as they run to congress and flagrantly lie.
To be a fair here even though I dislike corporations just as much. In the past I have seen big corporations call for regulations in their own shady tactics. In those cases they felt like they needed those malicious practices to stay competetive with the other companies doing the same shit. Basically they want to stop but feel like they can't since the competition is doing it too.
I'm not sure this is the case here. But that stuff sometimes happens.
Yeah but those supposed companies that "needed those malicious practices to stay competitive" also could have done the thing Mozilla is now doing. Could even use direct knowledge and proof of those practices in a big ad campaign about how they actively don't want all your info. This "doing it because everyone is doing it" headspace is one of the many corpo versions of "just following orders." I understand the point you are making, but it isn't like any of these companies are too small to fight back. Allowing this kind of thing (beyond just this specific instance) just further gaslights us at a consumer level into continued abuse being normalized and okay. Which makes it even harder to do anything about it.
Just like with how we see that a major amount of voters literally just give up and see everything as pointless in doing anything (and that is assuming that they even know about any information at all). Or how we are trained to only see one or two day polite marches in protest of something as being the whole "fight" and just go home. But when people don't just go home or "stay out of normal people's ways" it is seen as those protesters being "unrealistic" or even "assholes in the way." The whole point of protests is to literally be as in the way of "normal life" as possible to push whatever change they are fighting for.
I actually agree with all your points.
I just think regulation which outlaws the problematic or unethical behavior is one possible way to improve the situation. And I am not against a company calling for these kinds of regulations.
Even with Mozilla as an example. Banning or limiting data collection or web standard warping practices would strengthen Mozilla against their competition.
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Actually it wouldn't be outrageous for them to call for regulation. Right now they are almost forced to do what everyone else is doing to stay competitive. It there were more regulations they could all compete on a better level.