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    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, sure, but:

    1. The Windows File Manager is really just awful in that regard. You can get alternative file managers that start up in a fraction of that time, with more features.

    2. Startup time isn't really the worst of it. RAM usage is worse. And if a program uses lots of RAM, it will still appear quite performant. But it makes everything else on your system slower.

    [–] eltimablo@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There's also the added CPU overhead from using JavaScript for everything to contend with.

    [–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    As long as the program is not bloated, JavaScript can be fast. Unfortunately that's not the case with most programs.

    [–] nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

    especially if they're proprietary...

    [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    file manager opens instantly.

    genuinely curious, I have a shitton of networked drives and at least 7 volumes on this locally, file manager has always popped open ready to go at a click or hotkey.

    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't know, man. I haven't done a scientific study on it either.

    It was one of the reasons why I switched from Windows to Linux. On the same HDD, with same data, Windows file manager took half a minute to open, when the various Linux file managers were all instant.
    I did 'refresh' Windows beforehand, too, which Microsoft claims is like reinstalling. Couldn't easily do a proper reinstall, because of OEM license horseshit.

    These days, I only really see Windows when colleagues are using it. That's all within my company's network drive infrastructure. Maybe it is being slowed down by that.

    That's still proof enough for me, though, that Windows file manager is shittily coded. A proper architecture would have the UI in a separate thread from all the file operations and it should never be the case that a slow hard drive or network drive is causing the UI to appear later.

    [–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Are you using the Windows 10 file manager? That one is so much faster than the new Windows 11 one.

    [–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can you recommend some third party windows file managers?

    1. Stock file manager has an okay UI (tabs are super nice) but is kinda slow, especially on battery.

    2. I tried explorer++ but its UI is clunky and it's only slightly faster than the stock file manager.

    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

    Well, the file manager I use on Linux, Dolphin, has an experimental Windows version.
    When I learned of that a few years ago, I gave it a shot on Windows and I prefered it to File Explorer, but it's not like I compared it to other offerings or anything like that.

    I do think that's the best file manager on Linux and most features were working on Windows back then, so it's not unlikely either, that it is by far the best offering for Windows. But it could also be a buggy mess. I wouldn't know...

    [–] legendarydromedary@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

    I've been using Double Commander for years and I love it, but the UI takes some getting used to (and the default settings aren't great).