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[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Look I've got no skin in the game here, what's wrong with having a mod that removes a selector in a character creation screen?

I get that some people are upset if they get misgendered or whatever (as I would be...my chosen pronouns just happen to line up with what everyone assumes they are...comfy living) but is it really necessary to force everyone to have a pronoun selection option if they don't want a pronoun selection option? You're not going to make someone blinded by hate see any clearer by forcing them to do something that only affects them.

Edit: I'm sorry if my questioning hurt some folks, that wasn't my intention. I couldn't see what the big deal was, but thanks to those who made the effort to engage with me, I have a more informed view and I can appreciate why the mod was removed and why its existence was upsetting.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wrong with having a mod that removes the skin color selector? I get people care about race and stuff, but is it really necessary to force everyone to have a skin colour selection option if they don't want a skin colour selection option? You're not going to make a racist see clearer by forcing them to do something that only affects them.

You have it in your own question. It is hateful. It was made by the hateful for the hateful to perpetuate a hateful idea. You might even call it a kind of hate speech, which probably means it violate Nexus's terms. Even if it doesn't, it's icky af. And Nexus is entirely in their right to refuse hosting it. The nod creator is still free to use their own mod and share it in other ways, but Nexus should not be forced to host it.

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the reply. Some food for thought.

[–] MissGutsy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Headline isn't everything that's going on.

This is not the first time something like this happened, some months back someone upload a mod that removed all rainbow flags from the spiderman game. Im guessing its the exact same thing like the last time: Someone made a new account to upload a mod that was only made to spark controversy. The mod itself didn't matter, the author is just a troll that wanted a reaction from this. They knew they would get banned so they made a new account. Nexus has the same stance on this as last time: they don't platform trolls so they removed it. It's not about the mod, it's about the authors intentions, which are to harm the platform

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. And what I didn't state in my message but I equally believe, is that Nexus can host (or not) wtf they like. Within reason of course.

[–] samson@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noones forcing anyone. The creator can upload the mod elsewhere. Nexus doesn't subscribe to bigotry and won't platform it.

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree, but forgot to mention that in my comment.

[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was going to comment the same. How is this mod hurting anyone? Isnt this the point of modding, to tweak it a little bit to suit your tastes? Its not like its a rape or child molesting mod. Those things should get deleted. But this? Such a petty thing to do.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine there was a group of people in your school, in your workplace, in your city who for some reason feel that Kazakhspy should not exist. They're not allowed to kill you, that's against the law, but they would if they could. Instead, they say fuck Kazakhspy, go kill yourself Kazakhspy, I can't stand you Kazakhspy. Hearing that kind of thing on a regular basis might be a little hurtful. Now imagine some game studio heard about this and thought hey, let's include Kazakhspy in our game. And then that group in your community was like "what the fuck is this! I hate Kazakhspy and now they're shoving Kazakhspy down my throat in a videogame? I will not stand for this." And goes through the effort of making a mod to remove you from the game and puts it on the website. You hear about this and see that it's up there with a few downloads. You might be a little hurt to know some people hate you so much they'll mod a game to spite you just because they don't like your existence. Then the website owner is like, "Wow, this is weirdly hateful and doesn't belong on my website. Let's not perpetuate hate against Kazakhspy."

That's why. In context it's hurtful to people because the intention of creating it was to hurt people through hate.

[–] samson@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't like it go start your mods4bigots site, then you can upload anything you want to suit your "tastes".

[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure I saw one like that on the steam forums, and people there were mad that it existed.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's almost like people are generally against bigotry, even if it's allowed to exist. What an apparently complex and confusing experience for you.

[–] samson@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Crazy. Fuck off you turd.