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[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've got to an assignment where I present both sides of an argument, I have two to choose from:

  1. should the date of 26 Jan as Australia Day be changed?

  2. is there room for Indigenous culture in modern Australian society?

I really like both options, as someone originally from NZ where it isn't perfect but our Indigenous culture is held is much more esteem, I like the culture argument but also as someone who is firmly in the move the date camp, I'm also interested in that. which should I choose?

[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd go with the date one, just because it is easier to define the issue, the second one you have to spend a lot more time defining what it is really about (what counts as culture? what is modern Australian society?). The change the date argument is more straightforward, so you don't waste words you can use on the actual arguments just trying to define what the question is.

[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

This was my initial thinking too, I'm realistically doing this in a day, so it's definitely the one that is more suitable for the time span.

[–] Thornburywitch@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My gut feel is that 2. is less controversial. Lots of material around to discuss too, as you could compare how other cultures have fared in this 'multicultural' society and extrapolate to indigenous culture. Also how indigenous culture has already fared - place name changes, inclusion in football teams, bush tucker going mainstream etc.. Lots of things to say about what's succeeded and what's failed.
Option 1, though, will instantly start an argument. A nasty one. Very polarising topic. All the above is just my opinion, though. It's your choice.

[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Some really valid points! Thank you so much, I looked at number 2 and couldn't quite get my head around what information I use.

[–] Duenan@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do you gave to present a dude and debate it against someone else? Or it’s just an assignment topic?

I think both have merits though the 2nd will delved into an area which could be hard to research for but at the same time maybe it so hard depending on how in-depth it needs to be.

IE in recent times we’ve acknowledged and apologised as a government to the indigenous and we have the welcome to land ceremonies but that’s only scratching the surface really buts a start.

[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to do a video presentation that presents both sides. It has to be 7-10 minutes long. I think I could present a decent explanation of both sides for point 1 in 7-10 minutes whereas I feel point 2 requires depth and I don't know if 10 minutes is enough.

[–] Duenan@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Factually based arguments are easier to present from both sides, if you go emotional for one side it could be hard to rebuke it from the other.

Sometimes it may be better to have more information than less but at the same time you don’t want to do both topics.

I’m by far not an expert on point 2 or cultural history or even of modern day society here in Australia.

It here are common themes between them as they both involve modern day society, both the good and bad sides of it which are still prevalent, you can see that from the Vote yes/no campaign and what types of people are coming out from it and saying.

If both topics are equal go for the one where you’ll have an easier time presenting both sides.

[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both tough topics to present the negative case on.

[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely agree, this is why I'm so torn, I'm so firmly in the affirmative for both that bringing the negative is difficult to even fathom. Topic one probably allows for easier access to negative side, which attracts me to it but then I'm firmly of the opinion that I want to see a lot more Indigenous culture in todays Australia.

[–] baconmash@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 brings real changes and integration of indigenous culture into our daily life. 1 is mostly symbolic. I'd choose 2.

[–] MisssDarylC@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely true, I agree about the true representations both have.