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Reich also went out his way to screw the working class. Citing him just shows someone is citing someone that is saying what they want to hear.
He went out of his way to screw people when he was in power.
At least he got minimum wage increased
He did not such thing. Congress has the power to set the minimum wage. Maybe you need to brush up on how bad this man destroyed the middle class.
Sure, he didn't specifically himself pass it, but he was Secretary of Labor and he lobbied for it. He's also the reason we have FMLA.
I don't think it's fair to say he "destroyed" the middle class.
Fmla is garbage. 12 weeks of unpaid time off
Yes it provides job protection but many people can’t afford that much unpaid time off.
It’s fair. He went against the unions to push nafta through which decimated the middle class. We say lots of high paying manufacturing jobs move to Mexico and Canada. That decimated the middle class and he knew it. You either defend unions or you don’t. He didn’t. It destroyed the middle class last
https://www.epi.org/blog/naftas-impact-workers/#:~:text=By%20establishing%20the%20principle%20that,end%20of%20World%20War%20II.
Can you recommend a place to start brushing up on that?
In what way did Robert Reich of all people "go out of his way to screw the working class"?
This should be good..
Guessing it's this:
Sounds more like him being wrong and/or lied to by the Clinton administration that was mostly far to the right of him on just about anything than any sort of malice on his part, much less "going out of his way to screw the working class"..
That is an extremely generous take.
Not really, no. Would be extremely out of character and go against what he's been doing for all the rest of career to deliberately hurt workers.
He didn't leave the Clinton administration because everyone agreed with him and let him do what he thought was best without undue influence..
Yes, really, because you want to give him this huge benefit of the doubt when it's one of the few things where he actually had influence and what he did was the opposite of all the principles he professes. Occam's razor there is that it's just classic political hypocrisy, waxing poetic all day about your principles but then doing the wrong thing any time it actually counts.
No, I'm giving him the benefit of everything else he's ever done. That's not just doubt, that's evidence of a several decades pattern of behaviour that in no way fits your supposition.
As for it being "one of the few things where he actually had influence", that's overstating how much influence he ever had when Clinton set his mind to something while simultaneously ignoring his massively influential work in academia and documentary film making.
Occam would take his razor away from you since you obviously have no clue how it or indeed anything works.
OK, what were his other accomplishments, or points of big influence? Anything bigger than NAFTA?
First of all, NAFTA wasn't Reich any more than the IRA was Bernie Sanders; it had been in the works since 1988 and his involvement wasn't significant enough to merit a single mention in the Wikipedia article (unlike such people as Al Gore, Chairwoman of the Council of Economic Advisers Laura Tyson, Director of the National Economic Council Robert Rubin, and even Republican Congressman David Dreier, all of which were mentioned specifically by Clinton at the signing), so giving him the blame is absolutely ridiculous.
As for HIS actual accomplishments, this reply is already plenty long, especially considering that you have probably made up your mind and won't believe it no matter what, so I'm just gonna direct you to his Wikipedia article where you can see for yourself.
OK, so in other words:
Correct. He wasn't listened to much in that administration (that's why he left) and I've already provided a link to an exhaustive list of his accomplishments.
Pro tip for all the people reading, don't just double down when you're wrong.
Take your own advice. Also, leave me alone.