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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Note that this list include auxiliary ships. China have a lot smaller ships because PLAN is a defensive navy so they build a lot of mine trawlers and short range missile corvettes, patrol boats and conventional submarines. While USN is build specifically for acting as a long arm of imperialism, therefore they have less small ships but they need a lot of huge ones. Their carriers make up for a lot of that tonnage, and their auxiliary ships also needs to be huge for the reason they need to operate on a long ranges to perform their gunboat diplomacy. Even their frigates are 4000 tons and underarmed because they need that operational range.

So yeah, USN have huge margin of tonnage advantage, but the questions is, will it be able to use this advantage vs PLAN in west Pacific, and here the answer is way less conclusive, especially that latest Chinese hypersonic missile drill point out that carriers can be as well useless.

[–] Magos_Galactose@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even their frigates "are 4000 tons" and underarmed because they need that operational range.

You haven't seen the newest frigate they're building, I take it.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah i meant the Perry and Knox classes, around twice as big than most other contemporary projects (except British ones). Even the LCS which should be light ships are over 3000 tons.