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I'm a sugar addict. I went keto 2 years ago and lost 150lbs. I still need to lose around 30. 90% of our "food" isn't real food. You need meat and veggies. Nothing else. It's hard to stop though. I still gotta have a doughnut at least once a month.
You don't need meat.
maybe you don't but I do. I was a vegan and I was unhealthy and sick. Switched to mostly ketovore and I'm better in my 40s than I was in my 20s. I was able to stop every medication that I had been taking for 10+ years.
@letsgo2themall @Bipta I don't know you and I won't claim to know your exact experience and circumstance. All I will say is that it's easier than ever to be an unhealthy vegan because there is so much processed unhealthy vegan crap in stores nowadays.
I'm WFPB vegan (whole foods plant based) and have never been better. FWIW, I was vegetarian before going vegan and never ate animal flesh as part of my diet. Dairy *was* part of my diet before I went vegan.
@letsgo2themall @Bipta I eat tons of legumes, fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, and some grain. I don't set limits on carbs or fat, but aim to get certain amounts of protein, calcium, and iron every day. I eat copious amounts of leafy greens and eat them every day. I opt for as much variety as possible in veggies and legumes, rotating through several options and trying not to use just one or two all the time.
@letsgo2themall @Bipta It's honestly not particularly hard to be a healthy vegan if you stick to WFPB and don't have any allergies. Allergies can make it harder, but they make *any* diet more complicated (think celiacs, for example). There is a *huge* variety of plants available to meet our nutritional requirements. Where there are gaps, it is because of modern sanitation practices (e.g. lack of B12) or other lifestyle factors (most people are deficient in D, for example).
@letsgo2themall @Bipta So no, it's not at all *required* for the average human to eat meat. Veggies, on the other hand, are absolutely crucial due to tons of micronutrients and vitamins that are hard to get elsewhere.