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Judge in US v. Google trial didn’t know if Firefox is a browser or search engine::Google accused DOJ of aiming to force people to use “inferior” search products.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How can anyone make a judgement about something they know nothing about? We are so doomed.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They do so all the time - do you think judges are experts in every thing? The judge needs to understand the law. It's up to the counsel to ensure they have experts to explain the details.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Judges should specialize in certain areas for this exact reason. They should absolutely understand the material as well as the law.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t need to be an expert. They need to be people that have basic knowledge of how the world around them works, and the ability to learn new things as that world changes. I mean that’s the basic requirement at any job I have ever had, why are they exempt?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming they asked what it was? Or for clarification? If so, then they learned.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Wasnt there that judge who went and learned programming in order tp preside over a software patents case?

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As if this has doomed humanity before.

Judging without knowing has been practically sport for most of humanity's history.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because it’s done that way doesn’t mean we can’t fix the issue.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh for sure. I was just pinpointing the fatalistic reaction.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not "fatalistic", it's "fine" this way.

A judge doesn't have to know what mozilla is before a trial starts. Council can tell them what it is, how/whether it matters to the case, etc.

It's the lawyers that have the duty to inform the judge. You can't rely on every judge knowing everything about all topics. And they don't really need to..

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know what you're saying, and I understand it. But again, I'm not talking about how I perceive it, but how the other commenter described it ("we're doomed!") And like you, I thought it was an overreaction.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I mean.... gestures wildly at, like, everything

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Right? It's a good thing this judge is asking questions.