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Wasn't it established this type of behavior isn't acceptable towards lgbt people? Dismissing their hurt caused by others and clearly gas lighting them?

The replies to this comnent are disheartening https://beehaw.org/comment/314559

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[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a difference between not tolerating behavior and from sweeping behavior under the rug. A public show of pushing back is useful to demonstrate what we stand for.

[–] StewieTheThird@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah adding to this if you just removed every post (like some subreddits) then no one knows what was removed and why. Sure with lemmys mod log you could deep dive in to find the reason (if given) but publicly saying “calm down not welcome behavior” can be a useful tool to reinforce to everyone where the administrators stand. It also provides a transparency to everyone else to also allow us to keep our admins in check. Well as far as we can given we don’t own the instance as users.

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If we removed everything we disagreed with, that would be an echo chamber of specific opinion. Not ideal and not wanted. Having a discussion about disagreements is more apt to change someone's view versus just removing it entirely.

[–] Saintzillla@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. Doesn't help to hide this stuff. We all need to band together and support each other in shouting it down and educating.

[–] SapphicFemme@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is tiring for those whom are being attacked by that stuff in covert manner. Think about it from the minority persons perspective, day in day out they see abusive content, in media, their home and in discussion forums. It doesn't help to be forced to see this in a safe space either. The stuff i link in this post isn't good for the mental health and wellbeing of people.

[–] longshaden@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It is not an attack to simply express disagreement, and not everyone who disagrees is coming from a place of hostility.

The whole point of a forum is for healthy dialogue. You can't just go around accusing everyone who disagrees with you as being abusive and disingenuous.

[–] SapphicFemme@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we removed everything we disagreed with

That is very disingenuous and rather hyperbolic to say this. A person talking about their lived experiences and having someone dismiss them in a safe space only for admin to act like removing traumatising content is somehow "what we disagree with"?

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Can you clarify?

[–] SapphicFemme@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

My point is your comment is disingenuous and unhelpful. Have you read what i was referring too?

[–] liminis@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: Sorry, I mixed up tabs and got confused about the subject matter.

[–] SapphicFemme@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't recall anybody asking for "every" post be deleted, just abusive or traumatizing ones about or towards marginalized people. It's reasonable to not retraumatise whom are regularly treated poorly by so much of society. please stop using hyperbolic and disingenuous arguments. I ask you to please read the linked posts and understand the person whom was attacked side.

To solve this problem of seeing "deleted by mod" all over, a reason can be posted by the mod as a comment explaining why if needed.