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Did Donald Trump directly ask Russia for help winning the election? No. Did Russia want Donald Trump to win so he'd sow chaos and division? Yes.
Russia's troll farm did their level best to help him win. Russian entities bought ads on facebook targeting swing states with inflammatory ads like "HILARY WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS".
[https://www.wired.com/story/russian-facebook-ads-targeted-us-voters-before-2016-election/](How Russian Facebook Ads Divided and Targeted US Voters Before the 2016 Election)
Russian hackers released the info about Hilary's email server, which hurt her severely in the election. Donald Trump has spoken glowingly about Putin on many occasions:
[https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082478790/trump-praises-putin-as-savvy-amid-new-escalations-on-russia-ukraine-border](Trump praises Putin as 'savvy' amid new escalations on Russia-Ukraine border)
So to paint it as "Russiagate" and as something that isn't real is a bit disingenuous and simplifying something to minimize it's importance.. It's complicated, but clearly if Russia prefers Trump over any other candidate, there's a reason for that.
He did, though.
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,"
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-asked-russia-to-find-clintons-emails-on-or-around-the-same-day-russians-targeted-her-accounts
Yeah I remember that as well, and I was surprised that it didn't even move the needle during the investigation. The investigation was looking for direct enlisting of help from russia as an agreement. Him saying "Russian, if you're listening..." was flippant and didn't prove what the investigation was looking for. It sucks, because if a hostile nation is rooting for one candidate over another due to the chaos and division he'll sew, that's a very bad sign. Here we are years after his 1 term, and we're still fractured in a way no one in living memory has seen. This sucks, I have no idea how to even begin to heal the damage this moron has caused.
You think a "troll farm" can influence elections? Imaginary or not? Really? Okay, but that's not Russiagate.
You should be thanking them no?
Okay?
I didn't. You don't know what Russiagate is.
Because Biden is worse? As has been proven now.
Trump has shown over and over again that he idolizes dictator strong men. He's like a groupie when it comes to Putin, that isn't a quality we should have in a President. Or do you think Russia has the U.S.'s best interests in mind, and they're our friend?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections Date June 16, 2015 – November 8, 2016 Also known as Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections Motive Destabilization of the United States Election of Donald Trump Removal of U.S. sanctions on Russia Perpetrator Russia[who?] Outcome Trump elected president Mueller probe
In the land of free speech the dollar is king. But again, Russiagate was the idea that Trump was working for Russia.
The FBI literally rigged the last election against Trump. Do you not know anything about the USA? All their elections are rigged. It's the crappest attempt at democracy in the world even if it was real.
Yeah Trump is just another scumbag, he couldn't be an American president if he wasn't. he only has his own interests in mind, not Russia's nor America's.
Wikipedia is heavily edited by the American secret freedom police. It's not a source for political news.
I've only ever seen Fox news on clips on the web, it's not on tv here. Child poverty has doubled since Trump, police murders of the black people Biden despises have skyrocketed since his further militarising them, living costs have increased along with poverty in general, healthcare continues to worsen, started a proxy war in Ukraine (although Trump probably would have too) in his Crime family's favourite haunt, a place where he's bragged about crookedly bribing in the past,... maybe you can point to something that's improved?
You really think you're not describing the Dems here?
Oooh I see, you don't live in the US, so you have no idea what it's actually like here, as evidenced by you stating that all US elections are rigged which is patently false. The closest elections get to being rigged is all the gerrymandering the republicans use to ensure they have advantage in local elections which then helps them have more control on a national level. I adore that you state Wikipedia can't be trusted, but link to some rando's paranoia blog for proof that the FBI rigged the election. Holy shit, I think I'm arguing with bot designed to push propaganda lol. Begone troll, you know not of what you speak, for your words hold zero weight or import.
Wasn't Dubya's election result "wrong"?
The one which quotes Mark Zuckerburg directly about exactly how the FBI censored multiple websites to ensure their guy got in?
At least be honest with yourself.