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Is there really a reason, for example, for there to be the distinction of "magazine" and "community"? When you're federating, the same features should be called the same, if close enough. That way everyone can talk with everyone about stuff and we all immediately understand each other.

Would also alleviate confusion for any new adopters.

^I'm pretty sure this is going to be impossible though, since each sides egos will likely get in the way :D^

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[–] danc4498@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If we're taking a vote, I think "Magazine" is a dumb name. I saw that and had no idea what it was supposed to be.

Honestly, this specific post is the first I am realizing that "Magazine" is the equivalent of a subreddit.

Edit: if I'm being honest, I thought Community was a dumb name too.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, both of them are much more sensical at a glance than "subreddit." Subreddit only makes sense because of how long we've been using the term, if you came to it without prior knowledge it'd be hard to figure out the meaning.

I do agree that "magazine" is pretty terrible, though. There's no meaningful analogy between what we're doing here (threaded conversations on a particular topic) and what's in a magazine. "Community" isn't terrible, IMO, if it comes down to it I'd much prefer that one.

[–] cargo@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Magazine makes sense in the bigger picture when you think about. Let's break it down.

Microblog -> post. Makes sense you are posting a micro blog.
Lemmy has no concept of microblogging. So is fine using community and post naming.

Now why magazine? If you can't use post then you need an alternative and that's where article comes in. You submit an article of 4 types but what should these be in. You probably could get away with collections but something that also has articles, a magazine.

Qed magazines name (note all of this is completely made up and my justification for magazine)

[–] ekjp@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly subreddits actually used to be just "reddits".

[–] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup. When Reddit launched it was just front page, now known as the (closed down) r/reddit.com. The second they opened was nsfw, third was politics.
Subreddits were launched three years later when they allowed users to start creating their own reddits on reddit - aka sub-reddits.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Channels would be a way better analogy, I think.

Magazine would make sense, if the aggregated content would be more prominent. Think Google News with comment threads bolted to each entry.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I prefer "bins" over "magazines" but if we wanted to sync linguistically with Lemmy it wouldn't make much sense.

[–] Azzu@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be no vote, it should just be decided between the lead devs. Users will follow and largely not care.

[–] Cloudless@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I nearly gave up trying kbin because of the confusing use of terms. I still dislike the term magazine, and I still don't understand the difference between threads and articles. I just want to read/write posts.

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

article = thread

[–] ekjp@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. Every once in a while I am clicking Microblog. Is it just random comments from people? Then I am going back to the Threads. Still can't really use it properly but it happens. I don't need a replica of reddit. Once this thing settles I will figure out how to use it. Honestly though, this will turn into the same thing in a few years tops, so I am remaining much more casual now.

[–] boothin@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

microblog is the equivalent of twitter. Mastodon is the main way people engage in the microblog part of the fediverse, but kbin also has features that allow reading/commenting on/creating microblog posts

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What you are seeing under Microblogs are mostly Mastodon posts that are flagged with the same tags as Kbin Magazines.