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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The hassle of having to rebuild the atomizer, the danger of sub-ohm builds or shorts, the running of batteries below their safe limits causing damage that can lead to a failure, and fluid leaking are all good reasons for disposables.

What needs working on is how we manage the waste. You aren't suppose to throw them in the normal trash and not all places that sell disposables accept the used ones. My local vape shop just started collecting them as well as 18650 batteries and it is a step in the right direction, but there still is a lot of manual processing that needs to happen in order to recycle them adequately.

There needs to be convenience and incentive involved to motivate people into dealing with the waste appropriately. Like having every retailer be required to accept the waste and having a considerable exchange discount.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

Buying a "refillable" vape is sooo much better for you (you know specifically what you're putting into your body), your wallet and the environment.

Just don't buy a shit one and you'll be fine

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I started vaping like 12 years ago. I have spent thousands on attys, mods, and juice. Get off my lawn.

They are equally harmful and you know just as much about what is in the juice. They passed FDA regulations requiring testing years ago.

[–] fakeman_pretendname 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right about the rebuildables actually, in terms of they're not for everyone - if you can't rewire a plug, maybe don't try and rewire an atomiser, but I'm pretty sure most people can at the very least screw a "top bit" onto a "bottom bit".

We did have ~8-10 years without disposable ones existing. Even if they need disposable atomisers and tanks to make things simple, there's no reason to throw the rechargeable battery in the bin.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Disposable cigalikes and other disposables have existed for ages. They were terrible, that is why tanks and rebuildables took off. Disposables have progressed along with the cloud arms race. Modern disposables still use the same tech as the old ones, they just made them bigger and have better flavors.

Break open a Blu from 2012 and compare it to a Posh, same thing.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

There are no good reasons for disposables. If you can't make your own coils, use pods or clearomizers with pre-built coils. Your waste will be just a tiny coil with embedded cotton inside. That's like a bazillion times better than a disposable, while keeping all the "dangerous" stuff away.