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Is there really a reason, for example, for there to be the distinction of "magazine" and "community"? When you're federating, the same features should be called the same, if close enough. That way everyone can talk with everyone about stuff and we all immediately understand each other.

Would also alleviate confusion for any new adopters.

^I'm pretty sure this is going to be impossible though, since each sides egos will likely get in the way :D^

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[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's like saying Facebook and Twitter should come to a concensus on how to name stuff

Lemmy and Kbin are different platforms that are compatible with activitypub (just like other platforms in the fediverse, like peertube, friendica, pleroma or mastodon, among others)

[–] tikitaki@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

facebook and twitter are not federated

i don't see why creating standards for less confusion would hurt anyone. i think ultimately the standards should be optional - but standards exist for a reason

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But Kbin is a platform and Lemmy is a different platform, just like Twitter and Facebook are different platforms. It's just that Lemmy and Kbin use a common protocol, ActivityPub that allows interaction between different platforms. But that does not means both platforms are (or should be) the same

[–] rodhlann@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's going to take awhile for people used to Facebook / Twitter / Reddit / Etc to get used to having multiple platforms that cater to the exact same audience. Lemmy / Kbin basically do the same thing, with slightly different minor features. Most people aren't used to having options.

That said I feel like having some standardized naming across the fediverse wouldn't hurt with things that are synonymous, if that's not already happening. There's a valid argument for magazines and communities not being the same thing

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think there's a case to be made that some common nomenclature should be applied to activitypub implementations. For the same reason everyone can agree that an email has a "CC" line. Even though nobody knows what "carbon copying" is anymore. It's just a standard term so everyone is speaking the same language.

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think there's a case to be made that some common nomenclature should be applied to activitypub implementations

But there's no standard when platforms on activitypub are so vastly different

peertube are is the equivalent of or youtube
lemmy is almost like reddit
Mastodon is twitter-like
Kbin is a mix between twitter and reddit
friendica is facebook
etc.

I think is ok for every platform being different, left the autors express however they want. Maybe if you are a boomer who never touched a computer or a smarthphone ever these things may be confusing, but for digital natives? really? Can't you catch this stuff on the fly? It must be true what they say, the younger the dumber, to the point kids today don't know the difference between a file and a folder

[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

some common nomenclature

It already exists. The terminology is coherent, but unintuitive - any interaction is Activity, any user, erm... magazine or group is Actor, and any interaction is Activity.

[–] jalda@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

That's like saying Facebook and Twitter should come to a concensus on how to name stuff

Twitter changed Favs to Likes to copy Facebook

[–] Azzu@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's even close to the same. It's more like forum software everywhere calls a post a "post" and a reply a "reply" and not something else.

Both sites are link aggregators, both sites have sub groups that are meant for a specific topic that links can be posted to, this concept should have a name.

[–] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So should all news aggregators copy 2004's Digg?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

When terminology has become a standard, who cares what specific source you're "copying" from? Use the standard words that everyone already knows the meaning of.