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Rationalist posts detailed catalogue of confirmed bad behaviour by EA/rationalist org Nonlinear. Second rationalist goes meta on first post: how can we even know anything, it's so unfair to Nonlinear (awful.systems)
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  • original post detailing mistreatment of employees
  • meta post about how a good rationalist should correctly epistemically assess the fairness of the post cataloguing and confirming the bad behaviour

tl;dr these fucking guys

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[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Buried in a mountain of polite disclaimers and faux intellectual humility, we have this absolutely damning information which could have been the whole article:

Alice was polyamorous, and she and Drew entered into a casual romantic relationship. Kat previously had a polyamorous marriage that ended in divorce, and is now monogamously partnered with Emerson. Kat reportedly told Alice that she didn't mind polyamory "on the other side of the world”, but couldn't stand it right next to her, and probably either Alice would need to become monogamous or Alice should leave the organization.

This Drew character was fucking the intern? No mention of any sort of ethical entanglement regarding having casual sex with your live-in employee. Think of the utilitons you save by hiring a maid/grocery getter to have sex with instead of wasting your valuable genius-minutes actually dating.

The lack of commentary regarding it (there's one sitting at -15 that points out the obvious) makes me wonder if this sort of thing is the norm in EA circles.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago

The rationalist subculture is very bad at uncoerced consent.

[–] m@blat.at 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Evinceo @dgerard The name Alice automatically makes me assume this is some kind of cryptographic problem statement. "Alice is polyamorous and wishes to enter into a casual romantic relationship with Bob."

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

I was waiting for one of the founder/bosses to be called Mallory. I had also noticed. Skipping Bob made me the Nerd in me cry out.