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Episode Analysis | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x01 "Twovix" and 4x02 "I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee" (startrek.website)

submitted 1 year ago by williams_482@startrek.website to c/daystrominstitute@startrek.website

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This is the Daystrom Institute Episode Analysis thread for Lower Decks 4x01 Twovix and 4x02 I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee.

Now that we’ve had a few days to digest the content of the latest episode, this thread is a place to dig a little deeper.

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The meat blob did tick off my "hey, you're just as guilty as with Tuvix" reaction, even though they handwave it away by saying it is an unthinking blob.

However, it's unavoidable that Tuvix is an entity that wants to live, had no choice in it's creation, and who has every right not to be eliminated to bring back two people who died in an accident (and incidentally died without any knowledge of their fate or any pain as a result).

I love the episode, and I wouldn't change anything about it. But I still see Tuvix's death as murder. Someone chose to kill a blameless sentient being to resurrect two others. I'd also like to add that I kinda like Neelix and Tuvok and would have been upset to see them written out of the show.

If, instead, “Tuvix” was built with popular characters, like Janeway, the EMH, or Seven, the audience would have no qualms about a return to the status quo—or at least not nearly to the degree we’ve seen over the years.

As with my previous point, my feelings are nothing to do with how much I like the character compared to the ones that died to create it, but rather that they are straight up choosing to kill a sentient being to achieve a goal. According to my morals that is wrong.