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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wringing fingers appeasement is an emotional ploy meant to get people to stop thinking and start crying inside.

Do you think it was acceptable for Texas to fight a war of independence against Mexico to join the U.S.?

If so, why isn’t it acceptable for the Donbas to fight a war of independence against Ukraine to join Russia?

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If so, why isn’t it acceptable for the Donbas to fight a war of independence against Ukraine to join Russia?

Is that what you think this current conflict is?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why shouldn’t I? Don’t the people want to join Russia?

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Ukrainians being bombed have no interest in joining Russia.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the Ukrainians that Ukraine was bombing before Russia even got involved at all?

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean the Ukrainians being bombed by Russia. I assume you're aware that thousands of Ukrainian civilians have been killed by Russia.

The problem you have with the Donbas genocide narrative is that, even if true, it doesn't justify an invasion, killing even more people.

Why a supposed communist would even want to justify Russia's actions in this conflict remains a complete fucking mystery.

[–] kev-F384@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian-born citizens and thousands of the Ukrainian citizens evacuated Donbas, so the elections were always going to be in Russia's favor, just a sham vote that most of the world laughed off, now we see new voting taking place, and again we already know the winner, I just wish the bookies were giving odds.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago

Wait, you're telling me demographics change over time? No way!

You've described a failing of democracy, but not of the result. Democracy is susceptible to the people and thus, like Bitcoin, is susceptible to a 50% attack. That doesn't make the election null and void unless you're arguing that democracy in general is a flawed concept in any country with open immigration.