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National reparations commissions in the region will also approach Lloyd’s of London and the Church of England with demands of financial payments and reparative justice for their historic role in slavery.

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[–] rebul@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Inconvenient truth. Africans captured and sold other Africans to slave traders. The 'white devils' did not sneak into the African interior and steal them away, they waited for them to be brought to the coast. Still an awful practice, but the question has to be asked, "Why not demand reparations from modern day African nations?"

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For one, modern day African nations are not a small group of ultra rich white assholes who are still benefitting from the slavery.

It helps when the scope of the action is clear and direct and includes specific people.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, it's what I thought. It's not about truth and justice, it's about shaking people down for money.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think fining people who have wronged others is 'shaking people down for money'.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stupid comment. So, using your logic, it would be OK to fine you for something your great great great grandfather did. I'm confident that not a single 'internet couch activist' would accept that.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had inherited insane wealthy due to the horrible actions of my ancestors, then losing part of it to repay the victims of that tragedy is perfectly fine. It isn't like I earned it through my actions, and I would expect that if someone stole something from me and gave it to someone else then I should still get it back.

Way to be selfish though, hope it lets you sleep at night.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very noble of you to state what you would do IF yada yada yada. I call BS.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least my speculation is helping victims instead of shilling for the fucking royals.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, I couldn't give two shits about the royals. I just don't want to see a ridiculous precedent set.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not? Do you think Germany paying restitution long after WWII set a precedent that applies to you?

Do you just fear acknowledging the wrongs of the past?

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Fun facts:

We finished paying off our World War 1 reparation debt in 2010.

Although we're going to pay Namibia 1.1 billion, although those are explictely not reparations officially, because we also don't want to set a precedent on the matter.

(and needless to say we're still actively paying for the Holocaust)

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

If you only go after the people with money, then yes. Then it’s not about justice or morality at all. It’s about money.

[–] sim_@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing you wrote absolves anyone of their participation in the slave trade, you simply implicated an additional guilty party.

[–] rebul@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

True. So you agree that African nations hold the greatest responsibility?

[–] G4Z 1 points 1 year ago

Barbary pirates in North Africa actually came to South West England and took slaves.

Still though, the barbary pirates don't exist as an entity any more, the Royal family unfortunately does.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a garbage! I'm sorry, but how out of touch can one get?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Are you asking yourself how out of touch you are? Because you should.