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Ethan Lee has been keeping your favorite indie games running for years by porting them to Linux. Now he wants developers to start thinking about “maintenance” instead of “remasters.”

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[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not simple or easy to spin up a VM that will run indie games from 10 years ago.

[–] EmptyRadar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that depends who you ask. I emulate games all the time. Just takes a little bit of willingness to learn something new.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it takes time to spin up a VM that will run PC games from a bygone era using an old version of Windows. We're talking minutes from the time you click the VM until you can run the game, compared to seconds on a native executable. It's one method, sure, but it's not ideal. It's definitely not simpler or better.

[–] moon_matter@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Emulation is the least amount of work for all involved. If some poor guy is to spend weeks or months of his time porting a game it better be worth the investment. Porting should only be done for games that are completely broken and can't run in a VM or emulator.

It takes less than 30 minutes to setup a Windows or Linux VM.

[–] EmptyRadar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Personally I find the process to be much simpler than what you described, but I guess it comes down to knowledge and experience in that area. Happy learning and good luck with all that!

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a feeling you're talking about emulating consoles, which is a bit different than, say, emulating a game that only works on Windows XP.

[–] EmptyRadar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nope, I have been a PC gamer for about 30 years and I love emulating classics from the past. It's not as challenging as folks around here seem to think. I guess sometimes people just have a hard time accepting that there can be multiple ways of doing a thing, even if they are unaware of some of those ways. Emulating XP might seem like a big deal for someone who is new to the idea, but personally I have been emulating XP for decades, even when it was the modern OS, along with many other types of OS, so it's a matter of rote for me at this point. I wouldn't even consider XP to be old enough to be a challenge - try emulating some of the original Linux distros, or an OS you've never heard of for that matter. That's where the challenge can come in.

I love that so many people have an opinion on this subject though. It just affirms that new ideas are out there for those who want them. Happy learning!

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I also have plenty of experience emulating all kinds of things, including Windows - in fact, I have an instance of Win 98 in a VM right now.

That said, I can't agree that it's in any way easy for the average Joe. It's not rocket science, but it's by far harder than just having a working executable.

If nothing else, consider the legality of it - you must have a legal copy of the specific version of Windows, often the specific BIOS, as well. These are not easy (or cheap, often) to acquire these days.

Then you likely need to make sure your CPU supports Hyper-V, then install the entire OS...

Then you often need to make sure you're emulating the specific CPU with the specific GPU, with the specific sound card, or else this specific Windows 95 game will CTD or be missing features. Old games were finicky and OS emulation for gaming is only easy on the surface.