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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 112 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But he said the launch also raises questions around how Huawei managed to launch the phone when it has spent the past four years under US restrictions banning access to 5G technology. “While access to 5G for the chipset is one thing, I’m not sure how the company managed to source all the other components that need to go into a 5G smartphone, such as power amps, switches and filters,” he said.

Love that America's 21st century cold war is fully predicated on the assumption that China does not have the ability to develop its own productive capacity.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huawei is literally one of the cocreators of 5G

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

yeah, don't really understand the shock here

the whole policy really seems... stupid. Like, we've kinda hit a plateau with microchips and CPUs. Any smaller and you start getting quantum interference and the board becomes useless. So why is the stated strategy to prevent innovation on this front? What difference does it make? Either US leaders are fighting last century's battle and assuming this is perfectly analogous to the Soviet computer industry, or it's a distraction for something more covert.

But... I don't really know what the latter could be. I'm half convinced we're just not capable of that kind of thing anymore, that all the old heads have retired and all our clandestine institutions are staffed by their starry-eyed children. People with the right connections and none of the skills.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Probably a lot of racism that the inferior Chinese couldn't possibly create quality tech without stealing it

[–] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

So why is the stated strategy to prevent innovation on this front? What difference does it make?

White people get to stay on top of the food chain for like two extra months. That's enough for these guys to justify it.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

I think it's mostly a version of the former. The US has a hammer (sanctions to restrict tech and capital intensive development) and they only know how to wing it at nails. The failure of US sanctions to truly hurt Russia is an example of this - it really does seem like they thought they'd do more, even though the "bring EU closer to the US" strat worked for now.

I'm sure there are wonks that have thought of contingencies around this anti-China strategy so that there are multiple ways to "win", but I think the core of it is to try to slow down China's growth and domination of tech, as the US (and EU vassals) rely heavily on their (self-) advantaged position in tech monopolies. The US and EU absolutely cannot compete so the US is trying to delay and to carve out more spaces to neocolonize (EU better be ready for that lol). EU countries are playing with the idea of being less vassalized but so far haven't done anything concrete.

One "win" will probably be that this slots into a general new cold war anti-China narrative. They're always slapping that "China bad" button so that the US populace will be amenable to having their consent manufactured for more. Notice that the US media narratives are, "I guess the sanctions didn't work against those threatening sneaky [slur]s, so how do we escalate even more?" and not, "why are there even sanctions and who wants them?" Getting ready to escalate and escalate, hoping that China will eventually react so strongly that there will be a watershdd moment.

The Amerikkkan political class only knows how to ramp up tensions until they have the excuses they need to do mass murder for profit.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The shock is quite clear to me, despite all the sanctions, Huawei's domestic chip is only 2 to three years behind what the best of TSMCs process has to offer. It's equivalent to the best Samsungs process has to offer, even better in areas. That is an unprecedented achievement.

5G is cool, but the real story is just how good this domestic chip is.

[–] fitterr@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The troops get fatter, the spies get dumber thinky-felix

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

outsource the construction of absolutely everything to China

confused as to how China makes Things

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

CW: Racism"The ~~Russians~~ Chinese never invent anything. All they have, they’ve got from others. Everything comes to them from abroad—the engineers, the machine-tools. Give them the most highly perfected ~~bombing-sights~~ smartphones. They’re capable of copying them, but not of inventing them." - ~~Adolf Hitler~~ US liberals

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

reddit-logo and liberals et al continuing to carry on a proud legacy of white supremacy by insisting that countries predominantly populated by non-white peoples are too fucking stupid to do anything for themselves without outside help

[–] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Love that America's 21st century cold war is fully predicated on the assumption that China does not have the ability to develop its own productive capacity.

That's why they keep implementing these sanctions. The people running this country genuinely cannot believe that Chinese people / companies / organizations / leadership are capable of cutting - edge innovation.

I wonder when it will sink in that they were wrong. Will it be when all of our drones and missiles fall out of the sky due to Chinese jamming if we go to war? Will it be when there is a Chinese flag on the moon? On Mars? When the dust settles and the blood has soaked into the earth and the world settles into some kind of post - apocalyptic state if climate change is ever brought under a modicum of control, will Anglos crawl from their huts and cough as they shake their fists across the Pacific at a nation with hydrogen energy and scream that they stole it?

It will not sink in this generation. Perhaps in a hundred years.

But that will just be the reality they are born into. The sad thing is these ghouls will never accept they were wrong unless they end up being strung up by a mob.

[–] fitterr@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

China was supposed to collapse xi-pog

[–] huf@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

when did it sink in for brits that they're no longer the empire? dont hold your breath... :D