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Currently I’m planning to dockerize some web applications but I didn’t find a reasonably easy way do create the images to be hosted in my repository so I can pull them on my server.

What I currently have is:

  1. A local computer with a directory where the application that I want to dockerize is located
  2. A “docker server” running Portainer without shell/ssh access
  3. A place where I can upload/host the Docker images and where I can pull the images from on the “Docker server”
  4. Basic knowledge on how to write the needed Dockerfile

What I now need is a sane way to build the images WITHOUT setting up a fully featured Docker environment on the local computer.

Ideally something where I can build the images and upload them but without that something “littering Docker-related files all over my system”.

Something like a VM that resets on every start maybe? So … build the image, upload to repository, close the terminal window, and forget that anything ever happened.

What is YOUR solution to create and upload Docker images in a clean and sane way?

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Gitea and a Runner to build Docker images from the projects in the git repo. Since I'm lazy and only have one machine, I just run the runner on the target machine and mount the docker socket.

BTW: If you manage to "litter your system with docker related files" you fundamentally mis-used Docker. That's exactly what Docker is supposed to prevent.

[–] smik@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Self hosting your own CI/CD is the key for OP. Littering is solved too because litter is only a problem on long running servers, which is an anti-pattern in a CI/CD environment.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I already have Forgejo (soft-fork of Gitea) in a Docker container. I guess I need to check how I can access that exact same Docker server where itself is hosted …

With littering I mean several docker dotfiles and dotdirectories in the user’s home directory and other system-wide locations. When I installed Docker on my local computer it created various images, containers, and volumes when created an image.

This is what I want to prevent. Neither do I want nor do I need a fully-featured Docker environment on my local computer.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you should read up a bit about how docker works, you seem to misunderstand a lot here.

For example the "various images" are kind of the point of docker. Images are layered, and each layer is its own image, so you might end up with 3 or 4 images despite only building one image.

This is something you can't really prevent. It's just how docker works.

Anyway, you can mount the docker socket into a container, and using that socket you can then build an image within the running container. That's essentially how most ci/cd systems work.

You could maybe look into podman and buildah, as far as I know, these can build images without a running docker daemon. That might be a tad "cleaner", but comes with other problems (like no caching).

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no problem with Docker creating several images and containers and volumes for building a single-image application. The problem is that it does not clean up afterwards and leaves me with multiple things I don’t need for anything else.

I also don’t care about caching or any “magic” stuff. I just ideally want to run one command (or script doing it for me) to build an image resulting in just this one image without any other traces left. … I just like a clean environment and the build process ideally being self-contained.

But I’ll look into your suggestions, thanks!

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I seriously don't understand what leftovers you're talking about.

You essentially have a Dockerfile that describes how you want to build your image, you run docker build with the path of your Dockerfile and the path of the context, and the rest is completely up to you. Docker does not leave that many traces around - only the built images within docker itself, but as I said, that's the point of building them.

You can even export the image into a tar file and run docker prune afterwards, that should only leave the exported tar file.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I built an image last time there were several unused other images with just hashes as names and two unused volumes, also multiple cache files and other files in the user’s home directory in various subfolders.

[–] adora@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's very possible they weren't unused.
Docker builds their images out of layers, and all the layers are used during runtime!:
https://sweetcode.io/understanding-docker-image-layers/

The idea is that you can essentially change PARTS of an image, without rebuilding it entirely, which saves space and bandwidth.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean that you want to build the docker image on one computer, export it to a different computer where it's going to run, and there shouldn't be any traces of the build process on the first computer? Perhaps it's possible with the --output option.. Otherwise you could write a small script which combines the commands for docker build, export to file, delete local image, and clean up the system.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I want to export the image to my repository/registry and then use it somewhere else. I also don't want to set up a complete docker environment with all the "magic" things. Just build an image and upload it.