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Will Bunch expresses what I've been thinking since Trump was elected. American democracy is under attack from within. The fascists who yearn for an authoritarian government in the media are promoting it, and the media who supposedly don't support it fail to recognize it. They are busy trying to follow the political playbook of the 20th century.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, and you didn't read anything I wrote because I literally didn't say any of that, not sure why you're making stuff up.

I say that if you ASSAULT somebody because of their admittedly shitty opinions, that you're the bad guy and are going to jail.

That and that I'm getting slightly tired of all those armchair internet heroes in mamas basement getting hard peepees over fantasizing how they would beat up Nazis. Never mind most of them would piss their pants when standing next to an actual Dangerous person.

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate more then, on this quote of yours?

'we live in a civil society where EVERYONE has rights, even those with thoughts and opinions that we don't like, even neo Nazis. If you don't like that then guess what? That means you have racist opinions and you're the same as what you hate so badly.'

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elaborate where? It's pretty clear: everyone has rights, limitations and obligations. You do not have the right to assault people for having opinions that you (nor me) don't like. Yes, neo-nazis are dickless assholes, yaddah, you still don't have the right to assault them.

It's not that complicated

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But how does that equate to one having racist opinions?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really understand what is so hard to understand. Yes, racism is bad, racists are bad, neo-nazis are bad, all correct.

It's also all irrelevant

The moment you punch somebody in the face it's over, you are the bad one. You committed assault and battery and if the victim (yes, now you turned a Nazi into a victim, great going!) decides to press charges, depending on the injuries you caused, you might be the one ending up in jail.

If you tell a judge "but it's okay to punch neo-Nazis!" The judge might just be annoyed enough to slap a few extra months on your sentence so that you'll learn that it is not okay to assault anyone for their shitty opinions, period.

If somebody is threatening a group of people with a gun and you punch him to next Friday, that is a different thing and has nothing to do with that person being a neo-nazi or not, but nobody talks about that here. Everyone here says it's okay to punch Nazi's (Nazi's don't even exist, it's neo Nazis) and they're all wrong. It doesn't matter if it's Europe or the US or Canada or hell, even Mexico.

You punch, you wrong.

What is so hard to understand about that? Why do these armchair heroes (who, again, would piss their pants standing next to actual neo Nazis) keep fantasizing about assaulting people and then get an applause for that from police and judges?

Are you all 15 or something? What is it that I'm missing?

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand the point you are trying to make, but how does that make you have racist opinions?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think you misunderstood. I am asking you to clarify your prior statement acusing those who don't tolerate nazis of having racist opinions themselves.