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Will Bunch expresses what I've been thinking since Trump was elected. American democracy is under attack from within. The fascists who yearn for an authoritarian government in the media are promoting it, and the media who supposedly don't support it fail to recognize it. They are busy trying to follow the political playbook of the 20th century.

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[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So I'm free to declare you a Nazi and assault you, right? After all, nazis are bad, and I'm just protecting myself from what I perceived as your ideology

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know when Richard Spencer got the punch he was literally in the middle of giving a speech on how being Alt-Right is "Totally cool bro" and explaining how the character he stole from someone else's comic book is "More than a cartoon frog, but a symbol of how many people we need to gas to death to bring Hitler back"

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

So your answer to political violence is more political violence?

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally. Just say "so much for the tolerant left" or "antifa are the real Nazis"

No one has ever done that before

Real talk: what are you "protecting yourself" from? How hast thou been persecuted? Trans people are people? You can't tell racist jokes anymore without people thinking you're an asshole? Come down off the cross, holmes

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Nazis. I'm protecting myself from nazis. And you just described why I, some random asshole you don't know, shouldn't be allowed to declare someone a Nazi and assault them. This is why we have a legal system instead of mob rule.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People are probably better at explaining this than I, but I personally would only be violently-defensive is when its clear (mabe even easy for an random person off the street to agree that) an intimidation or harassment campagn, power grab or other violent attacks on basic liberties is happening.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is everyone has a different metric for that, and not everyone's metric is a good one. The Jan 6 people thought they justified too. They were wrong and so is the person I was replying to. This is why we have a legal system. We all agreed on a metric, we all agreed that the state should have a monopoly on violence when that metric is met.