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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This isn't a particularly convincing analogy. Islands have limited space. The suburbs where I live border tons of open space and parks. Meanwhile, our school district is already overwhelmed with children, so converting commercial spaces into apartments will merely add to congestion and sprawl. NIMBY's make a convincing argument against denser residential construction.

A better focus would be the ability to simplify public transit and walkability. Town centers and public spaces could be more accessible with denser residential construction, and the additional green space can be closer to where you live without everyone needing their own half-acre yard to mow and water.

[–] rah 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't a particularly convincing analogy.

I think you replied in the wrong place? I didn't give an analogy.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're right, I meant to reply to the OP. I agree with you. Still figuring out Lemmy, sorry.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The suburbs where I live border tons of open space and parks.

Yeah but then they build more houses and destroy more of those open spaces to make room for more suburban sprawl

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, Toll Bros buys a horse farm and makes half acre mcmansions. There are some big properties that have covenants that prevent it, and the zoning in my township won't allow new subdivisions less than 2 acres, and we have some great municipal parks which will never be developed. But that means everything is spread out to make public transit untenable. You need a car to get to the nearest train station, and then you need a car when you get off the train at any stop outside of the city.

There's no one-size solution to combat sprawl. High density housing makes a lot of sense some places, and not so much in others.