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The reshuffle, thought to have been deftly managed by Sue Gray, made a shadow cabinet heavy with stalwarts from the Blair-Brown era


I don't know about other people but I really was hoping for more than a sequel to the Blair years. I mean I get they need experience but the Tories are on the ropes, the Centrists in the party have had 13 years to come up with new ideas...

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[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think Blair was a mixed bag. Illegal war, best NHS in my lifetime, student loans, privatisation, expansion of the welfare state. A mixed bag at best. I wasn't happy with him. But at this point I would bite your hand off to get that government back. They knew what they were doing, and they pretended to give a shit about the people they governed. That's six steps up from where we are now. Corbyn would have been better but we don't have that choice anymore do we.
Starmer's purge of the left is infuriating though.

[–] Oneeightnine 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been told that now is the time to get behind the leader and put old allegiances aside for the greater good. You know, just like the right of the party did during the Corbyn years.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah! The Corbyn years, that was the time to do character assassinations, takedowns and infighting, didn't you know? Squabbling with the leader is passé these days.

[–] G4Z 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NHS in my lifetime

Aye, paid for on the PFI never never though.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rather we accrued debt for that than water company dividends.

[–] G4Z 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it have to be either or?

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It shouldn't be, no. But it looks like we either get to choose between this (gestures broadly) or revenge of the Blair years, so I suppose it does.
If you're asking specifically about financing, then no it doesn't. I believe our economy has shifted way too far over to the free market side since Thatcher and we need to undo what she did so we can have a common sense mixed economy. The landscape would be so different in this situation that PFI wouldn't be feasible, let alone necessary. In the current landscape, or as it was in the Blair years, I don't think I can propose a better way to pay, though I'm sure there was one.

[–] G4Z 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see what you were getting at, yeah I would take Blair over (gestures with wanker hands) this here.

Still though, I will hate that man until I die, he is a traitor, a war criminal and I blame him and all his wasted potential for this pile of shit we have now.

I tell you what, with PFI I'd just cancel all that shit and write a law making it legal, fuck being screwed over forever. There again, I probably don't have the mates in finance that all these pricks do.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago