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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.today 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How I see this problem is that we aren't given to tools to help us decide how we want to live our lives. Work sucks and is a waste of time. Contributing to society is valuable and something I want to do.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

During the 2020 epidemic and lockdown bunches of people were furloughed and we all got to acquaint ourselves with extended cabin fever. Many of us picked up new hobbies and some of those could ne monetized and were better than the (often toxic, underpaid) dayjobs.

It was a conspicuous phenomenon now called the great resignation. Our capitalst masters compain how no one wants to work, but it's evident to the rest of us that it's the toxic underpaid conditions we don't like, and we'd be glad to work if conditions were better.

I suspect laziness isn't a real character flaw or deadly sin so much as the desire to not suffer as we work. (There is avolition, a symptom of mental illnes such as major depression, and this is what drives people to couch-potaro for weeks or months at a time.)

[–] mayo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

I think that modern work is something done to us, as a form of violence. We're told to go here, do this, and in return we get just enough to get by. Humans are definitely not lazy, but we do have a problem with slavery.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also want to do that. I do not want five of my days eaten per week in service of that though. I want to have a life.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I actually think we should work towards a 20-hour work week or less. Our kids and civic duties suffer for our lack of time and energy, making for intergenerational mental illness and an general civic incompetence (facilitated by the gutting of public education programs)

[–] mayo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the goal. But I can't reject the fact that I need to work. It's gotta happen. And I also don't want to be depressed all the time. My comment is kind of about learning how to keep doing what I need to do without being sad and or angry about it all the time.

I've always been envious of those people who grew up knowing what they wanted to do with their lives and then they did it. It seems like what we want is incongruent with what is available. It's like they were born into something that was designed for them, but I think at least part of it is parenting and education. Doesn't help that our world is kind of fucked up though. Hard to close my eyes to that and be excited about choosing a career. That and* we're kind of serfs.