People in the west should stop this madness ...hek whom am I kidding ,they won't .
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Yes literally, that's all it would take.
A single shifted border, which you can in turn brag about since the Russkies wouldve taken more without a hard fight. What would you rather instead - keep fighting them indefinitely as more warheads roll out and the frontline barely moves? Keep giving stern warnings hinting at war? Get more NATO states involved?
Russia does not hold Kyiv. If a ceasefire is declared, they would hold the eastern territory they wanted all along, and the rest of Ukraine would be unobtainable anyway. You're scared of losing basically half an oblast which already costs millions of dollars and hundreds of deaths a year to hold onto, and has an active separatist movement which cannot and will not cooperate with the Ukrainian government. All Donbass will bring you is more violence and diplomatic headaches. Holding it at all costs will either bring nuclear war, world war, or at the very least worse separatism.
You insist on fighting until it's "yours" (your chosen team's in this sport) over the possibility of being spiritually "cucked" or something bc you made a minor compromise. Fuck that. That's the whole of human history in a nutshell, and you've just now started trying to cheat it using guided bombs and computers. You think you'll beat the turning of fate because the 21st century has to be "clean," which youve already made forfeit. You have no honor and none should be gifted to you. Go enlist so you have something in life to talk about.