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Sure, why attempt to improve the climate resilience or affordable housing in the cities where millions of people already live, when you can just buy land upstate and get a whole new toy to play with? And why tell local, state or national government anything - they'll only be supplying the land, water, sewerage, utilities & transport links. You pay your taxes, you deserve to get something back.

This is going to be one hell of a planning application. What's the land use code for "feudal stronghold"?

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[–] BrickedKeyboard@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doesn't the futurism/hopium idea of building an ideal city go back to Disney? Who does more or less have feudal stronghold rights over florida?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept)

Because of these two modes of transportation, residents of EPCOT would not need cars. If a resident owned a car, it would be used "only for weekend pleasure trips."[citation needed] The streets for cars would be kept separate from the main pedestrian areas. The main roads for both cars and supply trucks would travel underneath the city core, eliminating the risk of pedestrian accidents. This was also based on the concept that Walt Disney devised for Disneyland. He did not want his guests to see behind-the-scenes activity, such as supply trucks delivering goods to the city. Like the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World, all supplies are discreetly delivered via tunnels.

Or The Line in Saudi Arabia.

Definely Sneer-worthy, though it's sometimes worked. Napoleon redesigned Paris, which is probably a good thing. But they are stuck with that design to this day, which is probably bad.

[–] maol@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Way before Disney. Le Corbusier. The Garden City movement. It goes back to the Renaissance, really.

Napoleon III appointed Haussmann to redesign Paris, and he did a good job (although some aspects of the design were intended to prevent civil unrest). But Paris was already a major city. They didn't decide to build a totally new capital 60 miles from Paris. I guess St. Petersburg is a closer analogy?

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Part of the point of these ideal cities is you get you set up your own system of low taxes, privatized everything, and no democratic control of the city. Libertarian fever dream, like seasteading.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

imagine if you had taken even a moderate break from your bullshit and tried posting like this instead