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[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of adult meat eaters have seen multiple videos and still continue to eat meat. Very few have actionable ability to directly stop the suffering so they then stop caring. One person cutting down on red meat will never be enough until there's enough lab grown meat and/or delicious FakeMeat alternatives to satiate western society at large. We still a long ways away from that.

Until then, vote for people who want to cut down on brutal industrial practices.

[–] BooksAndLetters@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is very actionable to vote with their wallet and mouth and not eat meat. The "can't save them all, so why bother"-argument is really sad. I don't think most people would apply that logic, if they saw a child in distress, because so many children die every day of preventable causes. Every sentient being matter.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One person cutting down on red meat will never be enough

You could use that argument to invalidate voting or any boycott. "Why should I vote? My one vote won't change anything." The truth is, you aren't one person. There are many vegans.

But even one person can do quite a bit. I've influenced my friends to eat less meat. When we go out to eat, if they want to include me, we'll go to s vegan-friendly restaurant.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You could use that argument to invalidate voting or any boycott

The difference being that there will never be enough vegans to change large-AG practices until the reasons I've stated above. There is a non-zero hit to their bottom line, sure, but Veganism will never be mainstream until healthy and tasty alternatives to meat is viable, tasty, and cheap.

The perpetual shift to healthier lifestyles through lab grown and alternative meats are an inevitability for any prospering/utopian civilization. The technology and culture to get there requires A LOT though.

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

The world and it's inhabitants can get fucked because technology will save us? I could think robots are inevitably going to replace slaves but that does not justify me keeping a slave in the present.