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I would be amazed if this actually came to fruition. It would paralyze the country yet again while they play party politics. That would be four PMs all from one election result. Four sets of resignation honours lists. yet another round of all change in ministerial positions. What would a new face actually achieve with so little time left in parliament time.

If this looked likely, I could see Sunak doing what Johnson threatened. That would be to call an early election. I firmly believe Sunak is in this for the money with the business interests of his family. If a VONC looked imminent then he has no interests in politics anymore. He knows he will not be the next PM. He will want a get out of jail free option, IMO.

According to polls, a GE would be a wipe out with the Tory party. If Labour step aside for the LD, there is even a possibility that Sunak would loose this own seat. He may not even have to go through the indignant process of resigning while in office.

I can easily see how there could be enough Tory MPs to trigger this. So many who have nothing to loose anymore. Many are stepping down as candidates, and many more who know they will be out of a job. I sincerely hope that if they do pull the trigger then Sunak sees the option of going to the ballot boxes. I can do without the last year of parliament being stagnated by yet more Tory in fighting.

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[–] Syldon 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I desperately want to see voting reform. I am even considering to join the Labour party to help push for it in there. I hate the two party system. I have become more and more in favour of PR voting while watching the gerrymandering stunts the conservatives are doing in the US. I think we have gotten off lightly. Take some time to watch some:

https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch/videos

and

https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen/videos

Both are very much democratic bias. The egregious stunts they have mentioned regarding republican political blocking is obscene. The republicans fund an international organisation called National Conservatism. We could so easily have gone the way the US is now.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American, I state beyond a reasonable doubt that any step should be taken to break up two party systems. They're never a good idea.

[–] Syldon 5 points 1 year ago

I totally agree.

I hate the two party system in the UK, which is similar to the US. Both are abused in the same fashion. Because it is a FPTP system in the UK, campaigns are focused in the few swing seat areas. This makes taking total control is a very cheap affair comparatively. My area is predominantly Labour biased and has been since the boundary changes in the 1970's. No matter who I vote for I will always have a Labour MP. My current MP is nothing but a grifter. She is only there to vote yes when told to do so.

In the next election I am compelled to vote tactically for our grifter MP, because there is the remote chance that the Tories could snatch the seat. Ideally I would vote LD. The vote share in 2019 was Labour 16k, Tories 12k with the LD on a mere 2k. 2019 was an outlier because of Corbyn and is unlikely to be repeated, but that is closer than I want it to be in any election. LD will not even try to campaign in my area, because there is literally no point. I am stuck to pinching my nose and voting to stop these scumbags getting back in again.

So, I am very much in favour of switching to a PR voting system. This would mean that campaigns have to convince as many as possible. FPTP is a very regressive system in giving the voter base what they want. Voter's opinions for those not in the swing seats are generally ignored. FPTP system also makes a lot vote for what they don't want over what they really want.