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do you consider yourself to be religious or otherwise spiritual, Beehaw? (beehaw.org)
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[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was looking for someone who labeled themselves in both axes of religious belief: theism vs. atheism and gnosticism vs. agnosticism.

For those who don't know, the idea is very roughly that theism is the axis that defines belief in higher powers/spirituality, and gnosticism is the axis about whether the beliefs are knowable/proveable.

So, for example:

  1. Agnostic theist might believe in god and believe they have proof of its existence.
  2. An agnostic theist might believe in spirituality, but that organized religion is just based on other people's ideas about spirituality, not the divine word.
  3. An agnostic atheist might not believe in spirituality, but that it's impossible to prove that spirituality doesn't exist, either.
  4. A gnostic atheist might believe there is nothing spiritual and that the origins of all "spirituality" can be explained by anthropology, history, or human psychology, so it's all provably false.

I fall into the gnostic atheist camp, myself. A minority within a minority. ;)

[–] Reddit_Refugee2023@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

This breakdown helps, I guess I'm also a gnostic atheist. I've also read "The Egg" and found it an interesting story.

[–] Tankaus@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the detailed breakdown... also a gnostic atheist and I rarely find someone who knows wtf I'm referring to, lol.