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[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

depression is less prevalent likely due to the sense of meaning and purpose attendees have

You don't care that they're deluded?

Science doesn’t teach a person how to be okay with their purpose in life, in fact some of the answers science finds may push people further from purpose.

Reality can be hard. It doesn't make it less real, nor the search for gods less futile.

[–] flamboyantkoala@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Having a reason to live, a reason to do the right thing is a good thing. Religion done right accepts that the world is tough, they accept each other for their mistakes, teach one another how to get through life without anger and they forgive. It’s something very hard to get in day to day America. Until someone comes up with a better way to do this religion will still have a place.

But ultimately belief in a God isn’t deluded, intelligent design is still a real possibility.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religion done right

No such thing. Any ideology based and unprovable and unverified claims is a mistake by definition.

But ultimately belief in a God isn’t deluded, intelligent design is still a real possibility.

You're mistaken on both counts, I'm afraid. Please see http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI001.html and subsequent pages.

[–] flamboyantkoala@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No such thing. Any ideology based and unprovable and unverified claims is a mistake by definition.

Given that religion is the root of past major civilizations which we are built on I’d say we wouldn’t have science without it. Hardly a mistake in my opinion. We might still be beating each other in the head with rocks without religion.

You're mistaken on both counts, I'm afraid. Please see http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI001.html and subsequent pages.

This doesn’t disprove intelligent design. People still argue we are a simulation within science. That’s a form of intelligent design. As is sending a spacecraft that terraforms the beginning of the world and steers throughout history. There are plenty of ways in which a god could have formed us.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago 
No such thing. Any ideology based and unprovable and unverified claims is a mistake by definition.

Given that religion is the root of past major civilizations which we are built on I’d say we wouldn’t have science without it.

We wouldn't have science without oxygen either, and that doesn't mean that science owes its existence to oxygen. The post-hoc fallacy runs rampant in your assertion.

Hardly a mistake in my opinion.

Is religion based in unverified and unverified claims? Yes. That's by definition a mistake. I don't care about how useful or convenient it is or it was in the past; I only care about whether is true or not, and if we're justified in accepting it based on that. Accepting untruths for convenience is always a mistake.

We might still be beating each other in the head with rocks without religion.

That nonsense would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Religion done right

I challenge you to find two people that agree on what that looks like