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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by TheDude@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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Yet another lemmy instance proudly hosted in Montreal, Canada. Still need to get a icon created, if there are any designers here who would like to contribute please feel free to post!

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have already run out of server capacity. They have fewer than 10k users. There will almost certainly be another instance that becomes the default if the reddit exodus occurs as expected.

Also, I haven't seen any instances of lemmy.ml being super aggressive or restrictive. Lemmygrad.ml is blocked by most instances.

If I'm being completely honest, I'll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

[–] deva@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d rather reject all genocidal maniacs instead of acting like I need to prefer one over the other for practicality.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen anyone advocating for genocide but good for you, you're against genocide

[–] deva@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://raddle.me/f/lobby/96713/heads-up-the-tankie-behind-lemmy-ml-got-banned-from-r

dessalines AKA parentis_shotgun on reddit was banned by the r/socialism mod team for posting fascist LaRouchite propaganda and then praising the reactionary author, who is also a climate change denier who writes conspiracy theory books about the "NWO". He demanded to be unbanned but then made things even worse in their modmail by saying “putting Uyghurs in concentration camps aint cultural genocide because they're extremists”, among other awful things. He refused to apologize for using fascist literature to condemn Uyghurs, and instead kept defending it, so they aint unbanning him.

That’s the admin of the main instance. Advocating genocide.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I can see that he is interested in and possibly a fan of Lyndon LaRouche, who was a bit of a wackjob but also a free thinker. And he questions whether the treatment of Uyghurs is actually a genocide, which I dont agree with, but is within the realm of rational inquiry. There are no unbiased sources regarding that issue, its all propaganda from both sides. And I can also see that he refused to apologize to the mods of r/socialism.

At no point did you provide evidence that someone was advocating for genocide.

[–] deva@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a free thinker ... within the realm of rational inquiry.

Yeah holocaust deniers also call themselves free thinkers, doesn't make it so. Enjoy your "free thought" under the moderation of authoritarian simps.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't agree with LaRouche, but he was indisputably a free thinker. His positions defy categorization, he could be considered a part of both the far left and the far right depending on the topic. He viewed history as a battle between Platonists, who believe in absolute truth, and Aristotelians, who rely on empirical data.

I'm not being moderated by those people anyway. I'm simply using the software they developed, which is open source and can be contributed to or viewed by anyone. I'm not a member of their community. If they want to get real crazy with it, I can simply block them. What's the issue?

[–] borari@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I’m being completely honest, I’ll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

100% agreed. While I'm glad the more edgelord/4chan style of instance is blocked here, I appreciate and value the leftist ideals the Lemmy project seems to have been built on, because without them this federated platform probably wouldn't exist as it currently does.

The lemmy[.]ml admins have definitely handed out lengthy temp bans to people from their own instance who were posting a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China, more authoritarian left type of content for getting combative/disrespectful in comments. I don't see why anyone cares what kind of political viewpoints a site admin has as long as they moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead to them playing favorites when they should be impartial. The modlog being public is a great way for the community at large to audit that type of thing, and is one of the many things I think the Lemmy project has implemented much better than Reddit ever did.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead them to playing favorites

So, nobody should be an admin then? It's nigh impossible to completely eliminate personal biases.

The mod log being public is great, and I'll have to make use of that.

[–] borari@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstood me. I agree that it's impossible to completely eliminate personal biases, which is why it's important that administrators and moderators of any site be capable of recognizing their own biases so they can make a conscious effort to moderate fairly.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Or instead, try to get moderators from different backgrounds so they can be a check on each other. Diversity is generally a good thing, and I'd like a bit more transparency on who has moderation powers.

But the modlog bring public should at least give users enough transparency to point out bad moderation, so that's certainly a critical aspect of it.