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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

China is the only country that is on track to hit the goals stated in the Paris Agreement.
China has invested trillions in combating climate change.
75% of people alleviated from poverty are chinese citizens.
China has a higher life expectancy than the US.
China has a higher median wage than several european countries.
The US has the largest prisoner population in the world.
Slavery is legal in the US as a punishment for a crime.
The leaders of the riots in Ferguson were all murdered. Several political leaders have disappeared or died mysteriously over the years in the US.
The US "used to have" a project by the name of COINTELPRO which focused on suppressing political dissidents.

Why exactly would you take the western system over China?
What makes China authoritarian, yet the country with the largest prisoner population in the world and a proven record of suppressing and murdering political dissidents not authoritarian?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't like how you make it seem like the US is the average western country.

It is one of the worst in terms of everything except money and military.

If you compare China with an actual average western country, like France or Spain. Then China looks a lot less hospitable. With its giant face tracking infrastructure, the anti-privacy devices and apps, the genocides of Uyghurs and castrations of Muslims.

I like how China is improving massively, but it still is closer to the US than it is to Finland in terms of population happiness and freedom.

[–] flan@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

The US is the hegemon of the West, they call the shots. It's reasonable to talk about US in place of the west.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

the genocides of Uyghurs and castrations of Muslims.

zenzposting

love how you euros pretend to give a shit about muslims

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a European, we're definitely leagues ahead of the US, but we also have giant face tracking infrastructure, anti privacy devices and apps, and we just recently did massive invasions resulting in the deaths of millions of innocent civilians in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. And at least hundreds of thousands of those deaths are actually provable and well-documented.