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It was fine. I’ve seen all the shows so I get the backstory and references.
That being said, there are just too many Star Wars and movie cliches to be bearable:
Oh wow she cut her hair dramatically, she’s such a rebel and such a badass. (Cheap and overused character moment)
Staring pathetically at a spaceship flying away after a lightsaber duel (has happened four thousand times in Star Wars)
“Get ready!”
Lightsabers are harmless
Fixing a bomb under a ticking time clock (false peril)
Ancient artifact leads to the location of a place or character in the present (another cliche and cheap writing)
Another star map mcguffin (overused cliche)
Did we ever get an explanation for why what's-his-name had a map to Luke Skywalker in TFA? Why did Luke leave a map? Didn't he specifically not want to be found?
Back to Ashoka, why did the ancient nightsister temple have a map that lead to Thrawn, when he disappeared not even a decade before? Also, if someone knew Thrawn's location precisely enough to map it, why didn't that someone also try to find him themselves?
Did you watch Rebels?
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There are space whales with organic hyperdrives. They grabbed Thrawn at the end of Rebels and took him to parts unknown (what we now know is another galaxy). The map appears to be an ancient record of their migration paths, so the presumption is they dragged him along their normal route.This makes sense, but... I imagine the New Republic has easy access to the same information, and perhaps even more accurate or updated information.
Thanks for that. I was wondering how a thousands or years old map had relevance to Thrawn in Ahsoka. That part was throwing me for a loop.
Thrawn was carried away by giant hyperspace whales in the finale of Rebels.
The map has stylized hyperspace whales on it. It's presumably an ancient hyperspace whale migration map or something.
I agree that's probably what it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they should have established this on screen. Otherwise, it feels like 'random map comes out of nowhere to solve all our problems'.
R2 is a navigation droid, so presumably keeps a record of everywhere he’s been for audit trail purposes. He’s also (up until that point) never been memory wiped unlike C3P0, so having part of that route erased is a big change from previous canon.
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The map in Ahsoka isn’t necessarily a map to Thrawn specifically, someone else mentioned it being a map of migration patterns but equally it was mentioned in the episode that some beings travelled from another galaxy to the main Star Wars galaxy in the past. Morgan may just be assuming that’s where Thrawn was taken by the purrgil as they roam all over, so the map may be a bit of both migration patterns and a record of where the travellers came from.
I thought the same thing... there are so many recycled elements and tropes being used
One of the things that is at once amusing and annoying is that they're really trying to get all they can in with fan service in the gaps of Star Wars history instead of moving forward: ie having Obi Wan fight Vader in his series really changes the dynamic of their encounter in A New Hope and kind of makes it seem weird that it played out the way it did
We know Thrawn technically can't be a recurring villain or even have that much of an impact on the universe since he's not even mentioned in the newest trilogy just like we knew that Obi Wan and Vader's fight would not affect anything in the least. Nothing of note can happen since all of these stories are being shoehorned into the middle of the continuity
You know what's cool fanservice? Andor using a Bryar Pistol. You know what's not cool fanservice? Seeing the same 10 characters again and again and again. Seeing the same bar in an enormous galaxy.
Kenobi at the very least added some linking character development between ROTS and ANH, despite how awkward some of it was. So that I'm OK with.
Sounds like filter anime episodes when the Manga lags. Anything goes as long as in the end nothing happens.
Good points, but you gotta admit, this is done much better than the other live actions (maybe on par with Andor).
Sabine may have never seen anyone other than Kanen do the hair thing, and she wanted to get back to her old kick ass self.
The "ancient" star map and location of a character that supposedly got there after the map was made is really annoying. It makes no sense.
Also when the apprentice hunts down Sabine it felt like Maul hunting Padme on Tatooine.
Lots of positives about the site though too, right? CGI is good, acting is good, nice call backs to Rebels and when Force Ghost Anakin appears I'm sure there will be CW references too. I like the friction between Ahsoka and Sabine, and the remake of the closing scene of Rebels toward the end of Ep2 was simple but nicely done.
Just because the characters thought it was a map to Thrawn they were looking for and it actually being a map to where Thrawn was doesn't mean that it was created with that intended purpose.
It seemed pretty heavily implied that Lady Morgan had supposed what happens to Thrawn and knew of the existence of this device that would let her travel to where she believed Thrawn was.
Disney has taken a lot of creative license with Star Wars cannon, and has been very unapologetic about it. At first I thought this was another example of fuck the story we want to sell toys, the surprise tie in to the final scene of Rebels was well done and gave me some serious nostalgia vibes.
They also over-did the other actors crossing their arms, but yeah this came out of the gate much more interesting than the previous Star Wars series