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Housing can get built without the professional middlemen involved, believe it or not.
Right? I think it's weird. If nobody pays the house, they just don't build more house, I guess.
People, collectively.
Ideally all the shitheads obsessed with "owning" get removed from the equation
But they're free to do that right now and it doesn't happen. Not on the scale we require. Asking people to donate their time to build houses just isn't a scalable solution in modern society.
You misspelled capitalist
This is a very sudden jump from "housing shouldn't be so expensive", which essentially everyone agrees with, to "we should abolish private property", which you'll find is a significantly less popular proposal.
Communism brought Russia from a feudal industrial backwater to putting the first people in space in the span like 20-30 years, and they crushed the Nazi war machine in the process.
Literally every other western country had some sort of nonaggression pact with the Nazis in that time period, Stalin wanted to send a million men to Czechoslovakia to stop Hitler there but the allies said no.
Communist governance is responsible for dramatically increasing living standards of people across the world. A clever trick that capitalists like to do is pretend that all the work done by the CPC in the last few decades has actually been done by capitalism!
The pact that was formed after France and England failed to enter into an anti-Nazi pact with the USSR?
A pact that was a necessity when all the Allies rebuffed the USSR, but also a pact that documents show the USSR never even intended to honour from day one.
It's pretty clear the Soviets expected Germany to violate the pact, they wouldn't have bothered building a massive fucking defensive line between them and Germany if they hadn't.
The USSR entered Poland after it was clear the Polish army was collapsing. The alternative was to let the Nazis occupy the whole thing. Britain and France went to war with Germany to preserve Polish independence. If they thought the USSR was just as bad as the Nazis, why didn't they also declare war on the Soviets in 1939?
More like the Soviet Union liberated Polish-occupied Belarus and Ukraine after Poland stole Belarusian and Ukrainian land during the early 1920s. Or are you one of those Polish ultranationalists seething that Lviv is a Ukrainian city instead of a Polish one?
My grandmother would be dead or germanified and we would probably be speaking german if not for the Soviet Union.
They saved Poland dumbass.
With an 89% home ownership rate? Yeah, damn, it would really suck for 9/10 people to live in a home that they own.
Almost all the top countries on that list are socialist or were socialist until the 90s. It's almost as if socialism actually results in homes being treated as basic needs for people instead of commodities for landlords to make money off of.
NPC talk. Youre just spouting lines
I used to be a bourgeois land owner, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Did you see that poor person? Filthy creatures.
got something wrong with pronouns?
Lol are you gonna call me "woke" next
:PIGPOOPBALLS: :gulag:
Transphobes gtfo
what's wrong with you
How to libraries, public schools, and roads get build?
Heres one of the largest housing developments in new york: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-op_City,_Bronx
Not landlords, because we're imagining a different society than the single model in your aphantasia afflicted head, believe it or not
Let's start with pretty much the entirety of millenials and gen z that would love to own a home.
I mean, then there's the homeless.
The people living in them usually.