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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] books@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's not wrong, remote meetings do suck for getting to know your coworkers, but that's not a great reason for rtw

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't understand that notion honestly. I made friends from online gaming over the years that I never met because we live on different continents, but they know me better than some people who pretended to date me.

One of my online friend invited me to his wedding. I went and had the feeling I knew everyone there. They were the same people IRL as they were online.

Getting to know someone does not rely on physical proximity but on the willingness to be open and candid about oneself for everyone that is involved.

It's probably easier to be deceitful with someone that isn't in the same room, but if their agenda is to trick you in the first place, you won't get to know each other either way.

[–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, right. Back in the days when we were all on forums I got to know a bunch of regulars who contributed on a local site. Eventually we started meeting up and I had a similar experience to what you're describing. I even slept with one of them that first time we all met, we'd been chatting on the forum for over a year and felt like we knew each other well enough for that to be a possibility. Now that I think about it, this is pretty much the principle behind internet dating and that seems to work well enough to have become an industry. I've done that in the past too - you can absolutely build a relationship online and people do it all the time.

[–] notatoad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

my experience with online friendships is that it's much easier to self-select. you absolutely can get to know people really well over the internet, but it's also much easier to completely ignore who seems a bit annoying. at least for me, gathering people in the same room and forcing some physical interaction is more likely to make me get to know the people i probably wouldn't otherwise.

that being said, i think the whole productivity aspect is bunk and bosses want you in the office so they can say the things to you that they're afraid to put into writing. "in person collaboration" isn't code for you talking to your colleague, it's code for bosses want to be able to catch employees in the hallways and ask them to work on pet projects that are outside the employees designated duties or priorities, without a meeting record.

[–] TheObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

As an introvert he's very wrong. Let me be a hermit and work in peace.

[–] cazsiel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I legit use my remote meetings to get to know my team. If there's not too much work to talk about