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[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems they also have a tendency to consider NATO as cartoons villains

If NATO did not want to be considered cartoon villains, they shouldn't be so cartoonishly evil.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to be under some kind of belief that people should be ashamed of an accurate assessment of NATO, and that it is some sort of mistake to stand by it. This is weird

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait so are tankies anti-NATO? All leftists are anti-NATO lmao

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

Tankies are more specifically pro-dictatorship and pro-oligarchy so long as the countries claim to be Communist.

[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

gaddafi was sodomized to death with a knife. i can hardly think of a more cartoonishly evil organization.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're saying that the NATO bombings and the NATO-backed rebels had nothing to do with it..? He was fleeing a NATO air strike.

[–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. Gaddafi was also certainly killed based on French intelligence, and there is substantial evidence that the men who assassinated him were French assets. Part of the reason, apart from the broader geopolitical aim of annihilating a country which wanted to engage in the construction of international monetary and commerical systems outside of the orbit and control of the American petro-dollar, Gaddafi had essentially bribed Sarkozy at a certain point and was holding this over the latter's head (Sarkozy is infamously corrupt). See:

Hegemon's have to rule by fear. Read any bloodsoaked page from the history of the Roman Empire. Fear is best instilled through unimaginable atrocity. What do you think the rulers of the rest of Africa and the Middle East thought after they saw how Gaddafi, head of the most prosperous (per-capita, quality of life, standard of living, etc.) state in Africa, ended up?