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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

were? so you admit that Russia is winning?

besides, this is not what this thread is about, go cope to someone who cares

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No, they were losing to tractors, and Moskva was sunk without a navy.

Now they're getting real gear and training to play.

The only thing Russia ever wins are Darwin awards. Fucking being proud of almost hurting a country a fraction of your size right next door, like the US being proud of conquering Ottawa.

Say hi to those F-16s for me.

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say hi to those F-16s for me

We're literally dumping decades old hardware on them just so we can keep justify buying more F-35s.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree.

And I'm fine with this.

We built those to fight evil Russians, they should get their chance.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

We built those to fight evil Russians

At what point do you realize that you have transformed into the jingoistic goobers who were cheerleading the Iraq War during the W. years?

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

We built those to fight evil Russians

data-laughing

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah, there's the fascist lurking within every liberal. you should follow your leader

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not that you have shame? But this post is literally about putin assassinating a citizen of his in cold blood with no trial alongside several other innocent bystanders.

And you tried to use the word fascist to someone on the internet.

[–] Romeo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

The people that died were fascists and Mercs, why do you care how they died? Do you hate Russia or not? This was a truly successful denazification action if you wanna get silly with it.

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Evil Russians.” Jesus Christ. As if the West did not rehabilitate European fascists immediately after WW2 and end up on the side of imperialism in every conflict around the world for the rest of the century and beyond. Many of which they themselves instigated. Get a fucking grip.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have missed that whole ussr bit

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely did not miss that. Whatever you think about the USSR, you cannot, without grotesque distortions of history, say that they rehabilitated European fascism. They executed nazis while the western powers were giving them citizenship, jobs, money, and weapons. And if you think soviet efforts to support revolutionary movements around the globe were “imperialism,” I’m not sure what to tell you besides please read a book.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Osoaviakhim was like a fever dream for you?

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Those people were basically brought over at gunpoint as war reparations. You think that’s the same thing as paper clip and gladio?

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression that the scientists moved to the US were given a choice?

Also, I don't really see how Gladio ties into this

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you not see how gladio ties into this? It was basically the US changing sides in a war in Europe that never really ended. WW2 was about competition between imperial powers, and communism versus capitalism (as that struggle led directly to the rise of fascism). The end of the war resolved the imperialist competition, but not the question of communism. The US immediately turned around and started giving the European fascists guns, money and power after they no longer posed an expansionist threat, because fascists were still the most staunch anti communists. Again, this is why the soviets executed fascist war criminals, and the west didn’t even prosecute most of them. They became allies instead. It foreshadowed the west’s willingness to support the most brutal right wingers elsewhere around the world for the rest of the century to choke out any resistance to western neocolonial domination.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see how I've given you an escape with the second question. I'm sorry you needed it

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I see how you haven't responded in any meaningful way to my broader point that your "evil russians" statement about cold war military equipment is dumb as shit. But I get the sense you think there is someone scoring this debate and that you get a point for being a clever boy. Great job. I concede. Later.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Say hi to those F-16s for me

I'm sure they'll be just as effective as the Leopards, the ghost of kieyiev will destroy the entire Russian army

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't need a ghost of Kyiv, they know the ultimate weakness of all Russians:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/13hcf63/ukrainians_allegedly_dropped_bottles_of_vodka_at/

You guys are going to suffer, and I would feel bad if you hadn't started this whole nightmare.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you guys

farquaad-point the lib cannot comprehend people outside of Russia disagreeing with their world view

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Enlighten us then

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All of Europe hates Russia with an all-consuming passion, except sometimes Serbia.

And... that's where you live! That's like all my neighbors thinking I'm a piece of shit and me saying "Oh yeah, well there are people in North Korea who don't hate me!"

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in Europe and this

All of Europe hates Russia with an all-consuming passion

is just bullshit my guy

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really really not.

They're the violent drunk who always ruins the party but invites themselves anyway.

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Haha damn should go tell that one in Iraq, you just hate who you're told to hate

Really really not.

Doesn't make it true, your ass is not a source

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

I don't need someone to tell me to hate the Russian government. Just look what they do to their own people.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

That's the English.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

All of Europe

name every person in Europe then or else I'm assuming you're making things up

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enlighten us then, we are not guessing.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"please send me your location and full legal name" fedposting

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See this is why no one can take you people as anything but a joke. Multiple people have asked for your opinion, position, argument, or any thing that would allow someone to seriously discuss anything, but you just reply with a joke, meme or provocation. What inside joke is this law enforcement agent from another country have to do with anything?

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

respectfully, I'm not here for serious discussions

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough, can we ask you keep the light trolling to the less serious posts?

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yes we can ask? Or yes you'll oblige?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking being proud of almost hurting a country a fraction of your size right next door, like the US being proud of conquering Ottawa.

Look up the US attack on Grenada

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US could never conquer Ottowa

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, because unlike Russia, Canadians have balls.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The enemy is both strong and weak at the same time. Russians are simultaneously cowardly, repulsive and primitive (and evil, according to you), while also being barely held at bay because their innate savage brutality lets them ignore casualties, but like in an evil way, not the good heroic way we ignore casulaties when we drive our tanks headfirst into minefields. Gotcha.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is a pointless joke.

We feared them, that was wrong.

Now they've proven how weak they are.