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Police in England installed an AI camera system along a major road. It caught almost 300 drivers in its first 3 days.::An AI camera system installed along a major road in England caught 300 offenses in its first 3 days.There were 180 seat belt offenses and 117 mobile phone

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[–] echodot 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It isn't though.

It isn't unnecessary invasion of privacy. You have no expectation of privacy when driving around on public streets, and to say you're allowed to break the law and use personal privacy as an excuse is absurd.

[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I don't disagree with the statement around privacy in public, I would encourage you to temper that thought with the realization that when that was developed we did not have the ability to be everywhere at once with cameras or fly drones over people's homes or track cellphones with GPS or use computers to process this information.

This information can and has been abused.

Maybe we should change our expectations to SOME privacy in public.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If there was no expectation of privacy why do governments get upset about window tinting and license plate laser blocking and radar detectors? It should be no different than curtains, shutters, and any other form of passive radio.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah people say this but it isn't really true. If I was following, posting logs, taking photos, posting online those photos and logs of some kid in your family I am pretty sure this would bother you. Way back in my uni days there was an incident about someone doing that to the coeds on campus. The school was able to stop it solely because he used the school computer not by some legal mechanism.

You only think you have no expectation of privacy when no one tries to violate it.

[–] echodot 2 points 1 year ago

Happens to celebrities. The reason it doesn't happen to me is I'm not very interesting.

But it been annoying isn't really the point it's not how the law works. I don't make the law, I'm just pointing out that how the law works, and under the law you have no expectation of privacy in public.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A beautiful strawman. This is about driving and traffic enforcement by the government, not creepy campus stalking by a crazy person.

There is no conceivable reality where the government will publicly post your movements for everyone to see based this system. None.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does expectation of privacy disappear if there is no abuse? I wonder because expectation of privacy is about belief not based on motivations or integrity of others.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're still beating up that strawman. Expectations of privacy change based on context. Driving = no. Walking around = yes.

At least in the US, I believe this is actual legal case law so I'm not making stuff up here.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So I am allowed to use a radar detector and record cops?