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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm very conflicted by this.

On one hand it's sad that so much time and effort has been destroyed. That the hopes and pride of so many well-meaning Russian scientists has been dashed. That the science lost.

On the other hand, Russia launched this thing during their invasion of, and war against, tbe Ukraine in order to demonstrate that they're big enough and smart enough to do two things at once. To claw back some of the respect that has been lost by not having taken the Ukraine in three days...

Sigh.

[–] ElJefe@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s just Ukraine. No β€œthe” is needed.

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

It’s just Ukraine. No β€œtbe” is needed.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fact, the 'the' should be removed as it is an intentional way of delegitimizing Ukraine as a separate country. Regional phrasing thing apparently.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I heard the word ukraine used to mean like wastelands or swamplands or something like that. And all the Russians would call it that as an insult when it wasn't an independent nation yet. So when they did become one, the kept the name but dropped the the. So, Ukraine is a prideful name for a strong country. The Ukraine is an insult.

Not wastelands or swamplands but borderlands

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also Netherlands. Not the Netherlands.

I'm from 'The' United Kingdom, but we may as well de-legitemize our claim to anything these days...