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when Russia becomes the third world nation in a proxy war.
Russia has been a third world nation since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Politicians just like to use the Russian boogeyman to scare people who remember the Cold War. Putin may be a monster, but China is the real threat.
Russia literally invaded two countries and stole their land and people. Your post is ridiculous.
Russia is certainly a regional threat but countries invade and dominate other countries in their sphere of influence all the time. Russia does not have what it takes to dominate on a world stage like they did after World War 2. Their economy is weak, as is their military.
Do Abkhazians and Ossetians really count themselves stolen Georgian citizens? Do they really count their land as Georgian land stolen by Russians? Your post is ridiculous.
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Okay lol
I understand your sentiment but as a history major I need to clarify that Russia is literally the Second World Nation. As in, the First, Second, and Third categorization emerged to describe pro-NATO, pro-Warsaw Pact, and unaligned countries.
TIL…
China was considered a true partner of the West until 2008.
Business was good, fake news was doing daddies' biddings while jobs were being shipped out.
Both the US and China have legitimate security interests that are at odds with each other.
Sorry, but the real threat to what exactly?
Edited: aside from Taiwan, Hong Kong, several other nations in the east. My question was more in the context of China as a threat to anything in the western hemisphere. They are the eastern version of the US, no doubt about it.
The US status as a hegemony.
With India on the rise as well I think we are transitioning into a pre-WW1 like multipolar balance of power which could slide into WW3. Safest option would be China and the US dominate everyone else and we get another Cold War, but we will see.
the least racist redditor on lemmy
I'm losing the plot. I don't know what's real anymore. Liberal confusion is bloody contagious.
"usa good china bad
ww3 great"
What does race have to do with it?
Oh please, we all know the real reason China is seen as a "threat" by Americans.
It’s all about money and power, mate. Not race. The US and the Soviet Union are both predominately Caucasian and they were at odds for the better part of the 20th Century. Race has nothing to do with it.
When it comes to China, racism isn't exactly hidden.
What are you on about? You didn't address my counter-point. You merely restated this blatant propaganda.
sure buddy
You still aren't addressing my point. "Buddy" here is an attempt to bring me down a peg. You are using logical fallacies.
I never dismissed your claim. I did counter it with logic. You have yet to counter in return.
The fact that you think you countered it with logic really highlights the fact that you're not very good at logical thought. The fact that westerners are racist doesn't preclude them from hating other systems such as USSR for other reasons. The fact that you don't understand this shows you lack any capacity for logic. You keep pretending racism isn't the reason westerners hate China, but the fact is well documented. So in addition to not being capable of understanding basic logic, you're either a liar or just deplorably ignorant.
Maybe next time you try to pretend to be intelligent do it on a topic you have clue about.
but ~~China~~America is the real threat.
FTFY
Why not both?
America collaborates well enough with the rest od the countries. Americas system is bullshit but China is having even more control and is even more destructive. Both are shit but China is more of a threat
More of a threat to who?
Collaborate? Is that what America does when they invade a country and murder its people?
I think it's the bit where they install a military outpost and destroy the host's energy infrastructure.
No no no, they liberate the country from dangerous potential socialist values, a perceived will of the country to distance themselves from the US, or, you know, because they can.
Thats why I hate america too, and its capitalist system. They are mostly jerks. But they chrisitan way of not knowing what to do except of bombarding is really weird.
But at least its cooperating eith EU and some counctries.
The only people that matter are white and European.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-keeps-up-campaign-pressure-critics-abroad-despite-western-backlash-2023-05-10/
I guess everything is relative. I should have clarified that I meant China is a threat to America’s dominance of the world stage.
I have no problem with that.
Yeah to be fair some people will have a problem with it and some won’t. I think it will be interesting to see who comes out on top.
My money is on the Chinese.
Maybe, but the housing crisis and shrinking population gives me pause. Not to mention I think there is more internal dissent in China than people like to talk about. China still hasn’t caught up to the US militarily and the gap is no longer closing in.