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[–] RoccosBasilisk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point I think 36% of Americans are just trolling

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

no worries mate, luckily the US election system does not have a flaw in it that technically allows 23% of voters to decide the presidency

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn't win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's hope the day never comes, but I'm genuinely curious what would happen if that massive imbalance type of scenario occurred.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the Napomovoco whatever it's called will be completed before that would happen.

https://youtu.be/tUX-frlNBJY

Of course then the US is still stuck in a 2 party system and that shit will need to be fixed.

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are absolutely that mouth breathers in the US. A few months ago I drove by a fucking Trump rally that is held weekly out in some rural parking lot in Washington State, sans Trump.

I have two neighbors with a let's go Brandon banner plaster to the front of their house. Another guy ran for city council on a platform to mandate all teachers to carry AR-15s at school. There's a lot of bananas bullshit out there still. These people believe that the United States is a failing state and the only way to save it is to kill liberals.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I've never done a poll in my life. This is what I found:

NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households.

For AmeriSpeak's Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone.

The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story.

[–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how polls work. I'm not sure if you genuinely don't know, but that's just how they are done.

You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that's perfectly valid.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :)

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all.