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With these new rules, FIDE has managed to

  1. Imply the mental inferiority of women
  2. Validate the existence of transgender men
  3. Destroy the integrity of awards record-keeping
  4. Call transgender women men

Very nice, FIDE, incredible mental gymnastics performance! ๐Ÿ‘ Add them to the ever lengthening sports federation shitlist.

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[โ€“] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This shit doesn't even make sense. It's God damn chess! Men and women don't have different minds. You might have a case with physical sports, maybe (IDK anymore; used to think women were not able to be as physical strong as men due to physiology, but even that seems like it is inaccurate with new studies), but there is no such case to be made with a mind. Human brains are human brains. The body they are encased in doesn't change them fundamentally.

[โ€“] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

You might have a case with physical sports, maybe (IDK anymore; used to think women were not able to be as physical strong as men due to physiology, but even that seems like it is inaccurate with new studies),

I feel like the fact that the top leagues in most sports are open to both genders but it's basically unheard of for females to be even close to be good enough to join, proves there is a massive difference at those levels.

For example women can play in the NBA, some have tried, only one or two got close, but none have played a game.

What research are you referring to that says there is no advantage?

[โ€“] zik@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Men and women don't have different minds.

Chess stats don't agree with you on that. Men have a greater spread of chess ability than women. ie. the bottom end of men are significantly worse than the bottom end of women but also the top skilled men are better than the top women.

[โ€“] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe if they played together instead of separately things would change, considering how it is played and what the logic employed entails. You might not know how to deal with en passant if you've never seen it used.

[โ€“] Harrison@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

The measured pool is chess players, not random people they picked off the street.

[โ€“] zik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The standard chess competition is "open" so they do play together.

[โ€“] Lyrl@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Girls are made to feel unwelcome in chess environments at a very young age. Of course once many drop out because of cultural pressure, the remaining small sample size will have less spread than the larger population of men who have been made welcome in chess environments their whole lives.

[โ€“] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm pretty sure it's just that greater male variability In most traits means that extreme upper echelon of men are better than the extreme upper echelon of women.