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So what's the state for?
Serving the interests of the citizens.
That’s a good question ;)
Nah. Our state should do more and better things than that.
I like having a space program, for example. And education for all
A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things
There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact.
It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything.
You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt
I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government.
There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact.
I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government.
Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low.
It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government.
No, you are not understanding that
is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person.
And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye
Bye, have a nice weekend!
Also make laws
The function of a properly constituted government is to prevent other worse governments from forming.
This doesn't define what a properly constituted government is though. Any government can prevent other worse governments from forming, all they need to do is massacre their citizens and there will be nobody left to form a government.