this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2023
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I'd never seen any of the rumors, went to lemmy.ml for the first time (thinking I might join) and one of the top threads was a complaint that a post with anti-CCP analysis had been taken down by the admins and within 5 minutes of further research I was able to verify that, yes, the admins/devs are tankies. It's definitely not false.
So I backed out and switched to kbin.
Yea see, the only instances that the devs control are lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, every other instance is not run by them. For example, the instance I use (lemmy.dbzer0.com) is run by an anarchist.
Cleanest way to solve the issue according to the dev blog post principles is that those instances (not db0) defederate with others.
lemmy.ml is general purpose whereas Lemmygrad is ideological. The first influx of users from Reddit went to Lemmy.ml before Beehaw was spun up and the devs stopped promoting Lemmy.ml.
Most of these instances already defederate from Lemmygrad.
I don't see any reason why they should defederate from Lemmy.ml, the literal largest instance at this time.
I honestly view calling for this as wrecker behavior.
.ml is large yes and has some general purpose communities.
Although, quite clearly and easily confirmable by anyone, it hosts the problematic issues and the related user base described in this thread.
The whole ethos as described in the blog history of lemmy suggests to let those kinds of instances be on their own. Not wreck the wreckers.
I was completely unaware as well. I'm off to kbin. In my opinion, there is zero chance this doesn't cause issues down the line and it makes me feel uncomfortable using Lemmy.
Yeah, it's bad. I'll probably be looking into hosting my own kbin instance on principle soon.
Seems like the fedi way to solve these disputes ๐
There's a pull request to make the docker install easier for us normies.