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[–] betamark@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Tesla is not a company of one person.

Edit: I get wanting to protect yourself from folks who want to take their Elon rage out on random tesla, but isn't it easier to just talk to folks about this?

Thank you for sharing the article, op.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

A significant part of what Tesla is, is Elon Musk. If not for Musk’s wild and broken promises, Tesla wouldn’t be as overvalued as it is. Tesla without Musk would probably make better cars, but without him running the world’s biggest confidence game from the top office, it wouldn’t have the valuation it currently has.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

I mean if you bought a normal car and then the owner of the car company turns out to be an asshole, who cares?

But if you buy a Tesla the owner of the car company can force an update on you tomorrow because he's a cunt. So there is still direct influence. I don't want to know how badly the terms and conditions for Tesla software is worded, if they can randomly up subscription cost, limit your range (to protect the battery of course), shut off features and put them behind a subscription, ..

Or hell, if a Tesla is located in Ukraine it might just not start at all, they also shut down Starlink.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah too bad that idiot at the top hasn't been thrown out like in any normal company and the company is using resources to accommodate his whims.

[–] betamark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do you think he as been able to retain his position with the company?

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the value of the company is mostly determined by his fans irrational boner for him

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My family buys Tesla cars because they are awesome despite hating Elon musk... Also have friends who just love Tesla that much and also hate him.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're fine, QA is extremely spotty for cars tho.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Frunk, not owned by oil friendly car company, best EV recharging, safest cars, amazing acceleration and smooth ride with low center of gravity. I don't care about the crappy QA honestly. My Toyota straight up came with a fuel tank that's significantly smaller than advertised due to a manufacturing defect (2020). The teslas I've driven seem to just have mild finish issues that frankly don't bother me.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

By being filthy rich and owning a lot of the company?

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Its always a debate which CEO has the word to stop a company. Let's say do you think if he really wanted to Satya Nadella could just stop Microsoft? I do believe he could not. On the other hand I do believe Elon could stop Tesla even though he is only ~21% into the company.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you find out the owner of the brand you're literally flying the flag of is a fascist, and you don't make a change, it's at that point you become the asshole flying the fascists flag. Elon Musk IS Tesla. nice try though dickhead.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Whoops. The CEO of my car's company is a douche canoe. Guess I gotta buy a new car.

Fuck no, man. I hate Musk, and I'll happily express that sentiment to anyone who asks, but I'm not taking on a car payment or trading in my 2019 M3 with tons of life left in it to make a political point.

[–] betamark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wow I really appreciate your comment. No idea why you feel the need to call me a name though. Anyways, thanks stranger. Your opinion is enlightening.